Vanek right back to his old self

[Skooby]

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2 points for Vanek tonight & we won, oh man it's heresy.

[gebobs]

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Those were cheap points but hopefully it will get a point streak going.

[PTI]

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Those were cheap points but hopefully it will get a point streak going.

All players get cheap points, just that those who ahve the puck more often get more cheap points.

[OpIv37]

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2 points for Vanek tonight & we won, oh man it's heresy.

What happened to all that "premature, small sample size" stuff you said earlier in the thread?

I'm glad Vanek got back on the score sheet but he still only has 4 points (1 goal) in his last 8 games and has failed to register a point in 6 of the last 8.

[gebobs]

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All players get cheap points, just that those who ahve the puck more often get more cheap points.

Those were REALLY cheap points. In a season where 5 of the 7 wins have been ugly, last night was exceptional in that regard. Stupid penalties, cheap goals, defensive breakdowns, huge rebounds, chunks of game without a shot, etc. If not for Miller standing on his head and his three best friends, the goalposts and the crossbar, making themselves big when he wasn't, they might have lost that game by a baker's dozen.

[OpIv37]

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It was an ugly game- that's for damn sure. After they scored their first goal, they failed to establish the zone for over 4 mins, and when they finally did, they didnt get a shot on goal. I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.

And the officiating was one sided in the sense that they missed calls on TB, but every Sabres penalty was deserved and every one was stupid.

[Skooby]

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It was an ugly game- that's for damn sure. After they scored their first goal, they failed to establish the zone for over 4 mins, and when they finally did, they didnt get a shot on goal. I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.

And the officiating was one sided in the sense that they missed calls on TB, but every Sabres penalty was deserved and every one was stupid.

Tyler Myers looked comfortable in the penalty box, too comfortable.

[Skooby]

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What happened to all that "premature, small sample size" stuff you said earlier in the thread?

I'm glad Vanek got back on the score sheet but he still only has 4 points (1 goal) in his last 8 games and has failed to register a point in 6 of the last 8.

Still near the top of the league in scoring, he'd probably make the first line of every team in the league. Keep hating the guy that helps us get our only wins, it makes so much sense.

[gebobs]

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I was thinking that they may be the worst team in the NHL.

Could be. The Jackets look pretty crappy too. And who in the world is going to want to watch the Sabres' next game other than a few diehard masochists from Barfalo?

[OpIv37]

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Still near the top of the league in scoring, he'd probably make the first line of every team in the league. Keep hating the guy that helps us get our only wins, it makes so much sense.

He hurts as much as he helps- missing wide open nets and/or breakaways, offensive zone penalties, long cold steaks, etc. And that's one of the reasons why this team doesn't win often: the best player makes far too many mistakes.

[Skooby]

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He hurts as much as he helps- missing wide open nets and/or breakaways, offensive zone penalties, long cold steaks, etc. And that's one of the reasons why this team doesn't win often: the best player makes far too many mistakes.

He makes far too many plays compared to everyone else as well, that's the part you're failing to realize.

[OpIv37]

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He makes far too many plays compared to everyone else as well, that's the part you're failing to realize.

Never said he didn't make plays.

The problem is that he at least partially offsets his good plays with mistakes far too often for a guy taking up $6.5 million in cap space.

[gebobs]

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Never said he didn't make plays.

The problem is that he at least partially offsets his good plays with mistakes far too often for a guy taking up $6.5 million in cap space.

Your criticism is misplaced. If Regier overpaid, that's not Vanek's fault. And though it might have been a huge payday at the time, the league has caught up. He's now the 8th highest paid LW.

Whatever ails the Sabres, it is NOT Vanek. When you see the Sabres blindly throw the puck along the boards or miss a pass by 10 feet, it's not Vanek. His passes are tape-to-tape. The Sabres front line issues are with Stafford, Hecht, and Gerbe. Gerbe especially. He's lost. I'll give Foligno a pass...for now.

[Skooby]

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Never said he didn't make plays.

The problem is that he at least partially offsets his good plays with mistakes far too often for a guy taking up $6.5 million in cap space.

You seem indifferent to the fact that he is one of the point leaders in the NHL, he's also + 3 in the plus minus ratings on a losing team.

1 Steven Stamkos TBL C 19 14 16 30 +2 12 5 0 0 0 69 20.3 21:54 24.1 47.3
2 Sidney Crosby PIT C 20 9 21 30 +9 8 2 0 0 0 76 11.8 21:38 23.0 56.7
3 Thomas Vanek BUF L 19 12 15 27 +3 14 5 1 0 0 71 16.9 19:25 23.2 71.4
4 John Tavares NYI C 20 13 12 25 -7 12 5 0 1 0 80 16.3 21:44 23.4 49.1
5 Henrik ZetterbergDET L 19 6 19 25 +3 10 3 1 2 0 62 9.7 20:50 24.4 52.4

[OpIv37]

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I'm indifferent to the fact that he's a points leader because a) it doesn't lead to wins, b) it won't last as he is in one of his trademark slumps and c) getting points doesn't excuse mistakes like bad penalties.