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  • Downinfloflo
    Victimizing The Victimizer
    • Aug 2012
    • 16733

    Re: sabres prospect talk

    Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    vanek also was allowed to develop in the AHL and at the NHL level at 21. not 18 and 19.

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    Vanek got drafted and went back to college, The next year he went to the AHL.

    He never held out, He was never thought of as lazy, And a potential problem.

    It is not the Sabres fault that Grigs is not ready for the NHL, They gave him 43 games and he responded with 8 points, He's a lazy defender who's only interested in scoring, He should have been left in the CHL from the get go.

    It's not the Sabres fault he can't play in the AHL, And it's not their fault he's having a ruff time making it in the NHL, So this whole "Allowed" thing escapes me, He was given a shot and he need's a ton of work.

    No one in the Sabres front office owes a 19 year kid anything..He was drafted to do a job, If he don't want to do that job, Go back to Russia where he can fit in with the rest of the divas.

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    • Dr. Lecter
      Zero for Zero!
      • Mar 2003
      • 67946

      Re: sabres prospect talk

      Vanek was never thought of as lazy????

      You never read what Sabres fans say or what listen to what they do you?

      It was a running commentary on him

      I always thought it was stupid (to say the least) but a lot of people said he was lazy
      Originally posted by mysticsoto
      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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      • JATMtheJATM
        Registered User
        • Aug 2012
        • 59486

        Re: sabres prospect talk

        Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
        Vanek got drafted and went back to college, The next year he went to the AHL.

        He never held out, He was never thought of as lazy, And a potential problem.

        It is not the Sabres fault that Grigs is not ready for the NHL, They gave him 43 games and he responded with 8 points, He's a lazy defender who's only interested in scoring, He should have been left in the CHL from the get go.

        It's not the Sabres fault he can't play in the AHL, And it's not their fault he's having a ruff time making it in the NHL, So this whole "Allowed" thing escapes me, He was given a shot and he need's a ton of work.

        No one in the Sabres front office owes a 19 year kid anything..He was drafted to do a job, If he don't want to do that job, Go back to Russia where he can fit in with the rest of the divas.
        vanek went back to college because the sabres didnt think he was ready. the sabres rushed grigo when he shouldnt have been.

        and yes, vanek is seen around the NHL as lazy, selfish, floater, and lacks emotion by many in the NHL circles. i dont necessarily agree with those labels, but they are out there. heck red wings fans here dont want to trade for him, because hes "a lazy one dimensional floater"
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        • coastal
          Legendary Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 15514

          Re: sabres prospect talk

          So does this mean that he's not turning the corner?

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          • JATMtheJATM
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 59486

            Re: sabres prospect talk

            Originally posted by coastal View Post
            So does this mean that he's not turning the corner?
            funny you mention that. grigo looked better this year then last year when he played. he was doing some of the smaller things. he wasnt ready, but he look better.
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            • JATMtheJATM
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 59486

              Re: sabres prospect talk

              larsson gets the GWG for the amerks. video in link



              lieuwen was also awesome tonight.
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              • Downinfloflo
                Victimizing The Victimizer
                • Aug 2012
                • 16733

                Re: sabres prospect talk

                Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                Vanek was never thought of as lazy????

                You never read what Sabres fans say or what listen to what they do you?

                It was a running commentary on him

                I always thought it was stupid (to say the least) but a lot of people said he was lazy
                Was that a knock on him coming into the draft?

                Or was it a lable the fans gave him?

                I'm against drafting anyone outside of North America, Euros don't like to play a 2 way game in the NHL.

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                • JATMtheJATM
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 59486

                  Re: sabres prospect talk

                  Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                  Was that a knock on him coming into the draft?

                  Or was it a lable the fans gave him?

                  I'm against drafting anyone outside of North America, Euros don't like to play a 2 way game in the NHL.
                  im not against drafting euros. some of the best players ever have come from overseas. i dont believe in a behavior of play as a broad stereotype. every player is different. some you hit on, some you miss. and as a 19 year old, jury is still out on grigo. am i concerned? yes.

                  im betting he comes to his senses and reports to quebec in a few days.
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                  • Crisis
                    Registered User
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 12738

                    Re: sabres prospect talk

                    the handling of grigo was pure **** by the former front office... murray is trying to clean the mess up and grigo is taking offense to it.

                    he should've never been rushed to the NHL in the first place.
                    Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                    Vanek is Austrian not European
                    Originally posted by Prov401
                    Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
                    Originally posted by better days
                    I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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                    • Ginger Vitis
                      Registered User
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 3451

                      Re: sabres prospect talk

                      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post

                      Euros don't like to play a 2 way game in the NHL.
                      Sasha Barkov and Elias Lindholm will easily prove you wrong

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                      • Downinfloflo
                        Victimizing The Victimizer
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 16733

                        Re: sabres prospect talk

                        Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
                        Sasha Barkov and Elias Lindholm will easily prove you wrong
                        Yep....After you go through 100 of them, A few will stick.

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                        • JATMtheJATM
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 59486

                          Re: sabres prospect talk

                          vanek played a decent two way game himself. datsyuk....

                          euros are fine. some hit, some miss. grigo might be a miss. time will tell. i have patience.
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                          • Crisis
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 12738

                            Re: sabres prospect talk

                            nah man every euro is a lazy floater and every north american player is pure heart and doesn't coast in any area of the ice
                            Originally posted by LOSman WINS
                            Vanek is Austrian not European
                            Originally posted by Prov401
                            Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
                            Originally posted by better days
                            I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

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                            • Dr. Lecter
                              Zero for Zero!
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 67946

                              Re: sabres prospect talk

                              Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                              Was that a knock on him coming into the draft?

                              Or was it a lable the fans gave him?

                              I'm against drafting anyone outside of North America, Euros don't like to play a 2 way game in the NHL.
                              Pavel Datsyuk and Henrik Zetterberg disagree with you

                              The anti Euro stance is one of the dumbest things I read when discussing hockey
                              Originally posted by mysticsoto
                              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                              • mightysimi
                                Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 6344

                                Re: sabres prospect talk

                                Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                                No...Why do you think he's crying now? It's about money..Even if he sat in the Sabres press box he would make thousands, Going back to the CHL he's making like $500 a week.

                                If anything, When his contracts are up he's going to be all about getting paid.
                                yeah but with no game tape to speak of, it should be pretty easy to get him at a good price. But you never know, that is always the gamble when you draft a russian player.

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