Miller is ready to move on, so let him

[DetDannyWilliams]

There have been impressive, comprehensive studies done in regards to goaltenders and their careers. They’ve come to a similar conclusion: Age 34 is when goalies begin to fall off dramatically.
How old will Miller be when the puck drops next season? He’ll be 34.
Two studies, in particular, clearly define the rapid decline:
• Pension Plan Puppets, a site affiliated with SB Nation and dedicated to the Toronto Maple Leafs, studied the save percentage of 200 goaltenders who have played 60-plus games since 1984. It shows how a goalie who put up a .912 save percentage at age 30 (Miller was .916) drops to .905 at age 34, .899 at age 35 and .892 by age 37.
• Copper and Blue, another SB Nation site serving the Edmonton Oilers’ community, focused on whether goalies are starters, backups or out of the league as they age. Age 34 is when the majority become backups. At age 35, there are more retired goalies than backups or starters.
Does it make sense for a rebuilding team to offer multiple years and big dollars to someone who might not have much left?
There are, of course, goalies who seem ageless. Martin Brodeur, Dominik Hasek and Patrick Roy put up stellar seasons in their mid-30s.
But is Miller in their class? Or does he belong with stellar netminders such as Eddie Belfour, Tom Barrasso, Mike Richter, Miikka Kiprusoff, Olaf Kolzig and Grant Fuhr? I’d go with the latter. While they could stop breakaways in their prime, they couldn’t beat the odds that face aging goaltenders.

http://www.buffalonews.com/columns/j...t-him-20140209

[YardRat]

He was ready to move on when he married the model from the left coast. Should have moved him then.

[SpikedLemonade]

Take the 2nd round pick and run.

[Downinfloflo]

What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

And he averages around 14 goals a season.

I don't get it??

[DetDannyWilliams]

What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

And he averages around 14 goals a season.

I don't get it??

Ott could be a good rental for some playoff team! look at Regehr last season, Sabres traded him to the Kings for their second round pick(s) in this years draft and next years. Also Murray knows almost every GM in the NHL.

[OpIv37]

What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

And he averages around 14 goals a season.

I don't get it??

Well we got a first for Paul Gaustad. I like Goose but that was too high a price.

Is Ott worth it? No, but that doesn't mean some desperate team won't be duped into paying it.

[Downinfloflo]

Ott could be a good rental for some playoff team! look at Regehr last season, Sabres traded him to the Kings for their second round pick(s) in this years draft and next years. Also Murray knows almost every GM in the NHL.

Regehr is a tough defense men, They have more value then a winger who's main job is to be a loud mouth..LOL

And all GM's know each other, Only 30 of them.

[Downinfloflo]

Well we got a first for Paul Gaustad. I like Goose but that was too high a price.

Is Ott worth it? No, but that doesn't mean some desperate team won't be duped into paying it.

You ain't kidding.

Rangers could clean house with Callahan and Girardi.

[Meathead]

ott is a pretty good instigator though and that could be valuable to a team that needs some of that in an otherwise solid lineup

didnt realize the stats on over 34 goalies were so stark. miller appears to have prepared himself to be one of the exceptions but you never know. i still hope they find a way to keep him but im leaning a little more toward a trade after reading that

btw, this article is supposted to be contrasted against another one making the case for him to stay so the next person not as lazy as me should link to it

[Meathead]

dang there it is lol

[JATMtheJATM]

What makes Sabres fans think Steve Ott is worth a 1st round draft pick?

The guy has had one season with over 40 points in a year in the last 13 years.

And he averages around 14 goals a season.

I don't get it??

paul gaustad. and kyle quincey.

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You ain't kidding.

Rangers could clean house with Callahan and Girardi.

theres no doubt. the rangers could get some sexy pieces in return for those players.

[OpIv37]

ott is a pretty good instigator though and that could be valuable to a team that needs some of that in an otherwise solid lineup

didnt realize the stats on over 34 goalies were so stark. miller appears to have prepared himself to be one of the exceptions but you never know. i still hope they find a way to keep him but im leaning a little more toward a trade after reading that

btw, this article is supposted to be contrasted against another one making the case for him to stay so the next person not as lazy as me should link to it

One other thing about Miller's age: Lindy worked him hard for at least 4 years due to a lack of confidence in his back ups, and one of those was his previous Olympic season. I can't imagine being pushed that hard for so much time is going to help his longevity.

[Downinfloflo]

I am hearing that it is not likely that Ryan Miller will be traded by the Deadline and Sabres are turning attention towards re signing him.



The school of thought on Miller @BuffaloSabres is that a deal in the Lundqvist range now would allow team to trade him in a better market.



The goalie market is thin. @StLouisBlues r the only serious possibility for Miller trade and everyone knows it driving value down.

https://twitter.com/brianlawton9



Murray not getting the offers he was hoping for?

[JATMtheJATM]

espn said today the sabres are focusing their attention to trading him.

[Downinfloflo]

espn said today the sabres are focusing their attention to trading him.

You listen to ESPN when it comes to hockey?

Lawton was the managing director at Octagon, a sports agency, from 1998-2007. He co-founded the agency with Mike Liut - who is now the current managing director of the agency and happens to be Miller's representative.

http://www.octagonhockey.com/Default.aspx/OctagonHockey

[JATMtheJATM]

You listen to ESPN when it comes to hockey?



http://www.octagonhockey.com/Default.aspx/OctagonHockey

when they quote murray, yeah.

[JATMtheJATM]

edit: sorry, not murray quotes. quotes about murray.


http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10...ie-ryan-miller

so, millers as good as gone.

[swiper]

edit: sorry, not murray quotes. quotes about murray.


http://espn.go.com/nhl/story/_/id/10...ie-ryan-miller

so, millers as good as gone.

Sounds like he's gone. Too bad when this was his best season in Buffalo.

[OpIv37]

On a rebuilding team like the Sabres, trading him for younger talent makes the most sense for both parties.

However, I know good goaltending is hard to find and can make up for a lot of mistakes on a young team, so I could live with re-signing him.

What absolutely CANNOT happen is letting him walk for nothing. This team lacks talent on an epic level. We either need Miller on the ice or we need compensation for losing him. Letting Briere and Drury walk set this team back at least 5 years and it can't happen again.

[OpIv37]

Also I don't get the Tallinder thing. Why bring him back for 6 months just to move him at the deadline?

Don't get me wrong- he's past his prime and it's no huge loss on a rebuilding team. I just don't get why they brought him back if they knew they weren't going to keep him. We could have managed a measly 15 wins without him.