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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    WOW!!!, It's refreshing to see someone who realizes that.

    Stamkos was drafted 1st overall in 2008, No other 1st rounder drafted that year, Has 60 goals in their career.
    1 in 10,000

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by doug45 View Post
    1 in 10,000
    A quick look back at the last 10 years of players Drafted in the 2nd round of the NHL draft...53 players out of 270 have played over 100 NHL games.

    And it gets much worse from the 3rd round on...


    There are 9 players from the 2004 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 10 players from the 2005 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 12 players from the 2006 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.That is less than 50%.

    There are 6 players from the 2007 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 6 players from the 2008 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 2 players from the 2009 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There is 1 player from the 2010 draft that was taken in the 2nd round, that has over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 7 players from the 2011 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are NO players from the 2012 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.In fact only 1 player has even seen the NHL and he has 4 games played.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    yeah but the guys at the very top of the draft, like literally first or second, are usually the only place you get the elite game changers, and thats what it appears the sabres are going for

    so they pick first this year, suck next year but probably not as bad, and package some picks (if they have to) to move up next season to get another chance at another game changer. you usually cant and shouldnt trade all your picks so in the meantime they also get to add a handful of other first and second rounders to increase the chances they fall into another gem or strong compliment player(s)
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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    yeah but the guys at the very top of the draft, like literally first or second, are usually the only place you get the elite game changers, and thats what it appears the sabres are going for

    so they pick first this year, suck next year but probably not as bad, and package some picks (if they have to) to move up next season to get another chance at another game changer. you usually cant and shouldnt trade all your picks so in the meantime they also get to add a handful of other first and second rounders to increase the chances they fall into another gem or strong compliment player(s)
    Go back and look at the draft history, The odds are against you.

    Check out the 2007 draft.

    Check out the 2008 draft.

    Check out the 2009 draft.

    Check out the 2010 draft.

    Sure you can find a hero, But most turn out to be average or below.

    http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    A quick look back at the last 10 years of players Drafted in the 2nd round of the NHL draft...53 players out of 270 have played over 100 NHL games.

    And it gets much worse from the 3rd round on...


    There are 9 players from the 2004 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 10 players from the 2005 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 12 players from the 2006 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.That is less than 50%.

    There are 6 players from the 2007 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 6 players from the 2008 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 2 players from the 2009 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There is 1 player from the 2010 draft that was taken in the 2nd round, that has over 100 NHL games played.

    There are 7 players from the 2011 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.

    There are NO players from the 2012 draft that were taken in the 2nd round, that have over 100 NHL games played.In fact only 1 player has even seen the NHL and he has 4 games played.

    is this supposed to be a surprise? most of those guys are still in juniors and too young for the AHL still.
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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by doug45 View Post
    If you trade your best players you should get the same or better in return.

    Draft Picks....Most do not pan out.
    Stewart...No one has wanted him for 2 years why would they now.
    Halak...second stringer at best only has looked good because of the D in front of him.
    That is why I say we got nothing !
    this is a rather ignorant take. they got a first rounder, possibly another first rounder, a starting goalie who can be flipped, and a scoring winger. and a project prospect who is a long shot, but has size and skill.

    sabres got plenty.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    I think the Sabres did great, Miller was a walking after this season & we would've got no value at all.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    I think the Sabres did great, Miller was a walking after this season & we would've got no value at all.
    Funny thing is..
    Half the organization was on same page...
    Most wanted him back and signed!!
    I'm not getting into details but there is so much more behind the debacle yesterday and Friday nite!!!
    GO Gators!!!!!!
    GO GATORS!!

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by tampabay25690 View Post
    Funny thing is..
    Half the organization was on same page...
    Most wanted him back and signed!!
    I'm not getting into details but there is so much more behind the debacle yesterday and Friday nite!!!
    Dude your insider knowledge meme is annoying.

    great you people and know stuff.

    big ****ing whoop.

    heres hoping you're connected to the half that just left the building.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    Dude your insider knowledge meme is annoying.

    great you people and know stuff.

    big ****ing whoop.

    heres hoping you're connected to the half that just left the building.
    No prob.
    I will stay out of this part of zone and not post.
    It's hard when u read stuff and not comment but I will do so!
    Didnt to want to come off annoying but I guess it is..
    Like I said its hard when u know so much more and can't really speak ur mind!!

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    No need to pull a Patty on us.

    its just irritating to see you saying over and over again that your "in the know" only to not really share anything.

    why don't you just out the nonsense by sharing what you know.

    afterall, we are the consumers of the product and IMO have a right to know exactly what is going on.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    No need to pull a Patty on us.

    its just irritating to see you saying over and over again that your "in the know" only to not really share anything.

    why don't you just out the nonsense by sharing what you know.

    afterall, we are the consumers of the product and IMO have a right to know exactly what is going on.
    No patty here.
    Listen if I could I would say more....
    Lot of BS going on started Friday and never ended....
    I will know much more Tuesday since sabres are in Tampa for 3 days...

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    how many things could it have been? weve already heard patty wanted miller to stay. or maybe it was the final authority thing. or maybe patty called pegulas daughter a *****. or maybe patty came out that hes gay. or maybe patty is really an extraterrestrial

    what horrific kind of information could you possibly have that would require so much secrecy? its only one of a few things that could have gone wrong and spilling the beans, if you had them, wouldnt be such a big deal

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by tampabay25690 View Post
    No patty here.
    Listen if I could I would say more....
    Lot of BS going on started Friday and never ended....
    I will know much more Tuesday since sabres are in Tampa for 3 days...
    you can share without naming sources. Happens all the time. It's better to do that then to say you know more but can't say anything.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Just spill what u know dude... What's going to happen?

    The organization is going to melt down...

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by doug45 View Post
    No other 1st rounder drafted that year, Has 60 goals in their career.
    Gilbert Perreault was drafted first overall. Never had 60 goals, but I think that worked out pretty well.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    Gilbert Perreault was drafted first overall. Never had 60 goals, but I think that worked out pretty well.

    In his career?
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    Lecter is right in everything he said.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    In his career?
    I thought he meant in a season. I thought 60 was an odd choice for a benchmark.

    Doesn't change my point in the least, though.

    Perreault never even made it to 50, but he was still the greatest Sabre ever.

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by tampabay25690 View Post
    No patty here.
    Listen if I could I would say more....
    Lot of BS going on started Friday and never ended....
    I will know much more Tuesday since sabres are in Tampa for 3 days...
    When you said Miller could not wait until the deadline to come and be over that wasn't exactly earth shattering most of us could assume that.. Skooby is wrong most of he time but at least he divulges specific and detailed info that his so called Bills sources tell him

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    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    is this supposed to be a surprise? most of those guys are still in juniors and too young for the AHL still.
    And the other 140?? LMFAO!!

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