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  • JATMtheJATM
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    • Aug 2012
    • 59466

    #16
    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

    Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    You listen to ESPN when it comes to hockey?



    http://www.octagonhockey.com/Default.aspx/OctagonHockey
    when they quote murray, yeah.
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    • JATMtheJATM
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      • Aug 2012
      • 59466

      #17
      Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

      edit: sorry, not murray quotes. quotes about murray.


      Sabres general manager Tim Murray continues to pursue offers for goalie Ryan Miller with the intention of dealing him before the NHL trade deadline on March 5, a person familiar with the discussions has told The Associated Press.


      so, millers as good as gone.
      Last edited by JATMtheJATM; 02-25-2014, 12:43 AM.
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      • Swiper
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        • Sep 2010
        • 33105

        #18
        Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

        Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
        edit: sorry, not murray quotes. quotes about murray.


        Sabres general manager Tim Murray continues to pursue offers for goalie Ryan Miller with the intention of dealing him before the NHL trade deadline on March 5, a person familiar with the discussions has told The Associated Press.


        so, millers as good as gone.
        Sounds like he's gone. Too bad when this was his best season in Buffalo.

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        • OpIv37
          Acid Douching Asswipe
          • Sep 2002
          • 101313

          #19
          Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

          On a rebuilding team like the Sabres, trading him for younger talent makes the most sense for both parties.

          However, I know good goaltending is hard to find and can make up for a lot of mistakes on a young team, so I could live with re-signing him.

          What absolutely CANNOT happen is letting him walk for nothing. This team lacks talent on an epic level. We either need Miller on the ice or we need compensation for losing him. Letting Briere and Drury walk set this team back at least 5 years and it can't happen again.
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          • OpIv37
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            • Sep 2002
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            #20
            Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

            Also I don't get the Tallinder thing. Why bring him back for 6 months just to move him at the deadline?

            Don't get me wrong- he's past his prime and it's no huge loss on a rebuilding team. I just don't get why they brought him back if they knew they weren't going to keep him. We could have managed a measly 15 wins without him.
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            • Dr. Lecter
              Zero for Zero!
              • Mar 2003
              • 67946

              #21
              Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
              Also I don't get the Tallinder thing. Why bring him back for 6 months just to move him at the deadline?

              Don't get me wrong- he's past his prime and it's no huge loss on a rebuilding team. I just don't get why they brought him back if they knew they weren't going to keep him. We could have managed a measly 15 wins without him.
              Why not?

              They gave up an ECHL player to get him. If they can now turn him into a 3rd round pick (or higher), then they got the use of veteran player for a partial season and can turn Riley Boychuck, who is not good enough for the AHL, into a pick that could turn into an NHL player,even if it is just a depth guy.
              Originally posted by mysticsoto
              Lecter is right in everything he said.

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              • OpIv37
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                • Sep 2002
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                #22
                Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                Why not?

                They gave up an ECHL player to get him. If they can now turn him into a 3rd round pick (or higher), then they got the use of veteran player for a partial season and can turn Riley Boychuck, who is not good enough for the AHL, into a pick that could turn into an NHL player,even if it is just a depth guy.
                As long as it didn't come at the expense of developmental ice time for a young defender during a wasted season...
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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67946

                  #23
                  Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                  With guys like McBain, Sulzer and Weber able to be benched/scratched, having Tallinder here won't do that if they want the young guys to play here
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • JATMtheJATM
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                    • Aug 2012
                    • 59466

                    #24
                    Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                    Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                    Also I don't get the Tallinder thing. Why bring him back for 6 months just to move him at the deadline?

                    Don't get me wrong- he's past his prime and it's no huge loss on a rebuilding team. I just don't get why they brought him back if they knew they weren't going to keep him. We could have managed a measly 15 wins without him.
                    tallinder was brought back for one reason; get myers going again. and while at first it didnt work, myers has certainly found his game. still a long ways to go, but the jump in his play was a huge sigh of relief to the sabres front office. now, he needs to keep it going without tallinder. its sink or swim time for tyler. and hes swimming. for now.
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                    • SpikedLemonade
                      • Jun 2024

                      #25
                      Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                      The boys from Hockey Central at Noon on SportsNet are saying there is no market for Ryan Miller right now. They are saying the Sabres need to resign him now otherwise watch him walk for no return.

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                      • Downinfloflo
                        Victimizing The Victimizer
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 16720

                        #26
                        Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                        Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                        edit: sorry, not murray quotes. quotes about murray.


                        Sabres general manager Tim Murray continues to pursue offers for goalie Ryan Miller with the intention of dealing him before the NHL trade deadline on March 5, a person familiar with the discussions has told The Associated Press.


                        so, millers as good as gone.
                        Did you read the article you linked??

                        From the link you posted.

                        The person said the team's first option is trading Miller, who is in the final year of his contract and eligible to become an unrestricted free agent. Option No. 2, the person added, would be making a bid to re-sign Miller if a trade can't be completed.

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                        • OpIv37
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                          • Sep 2002
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                          #27
                          Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                          Miller's not what he was 4 years ago but he's still easily a top 10 goaltender in the league.

                          And dealing the team's recent failures, he has two conf finals runs under his belt so he knows the playoffs.

                          I can't imagine that no one out there wants a goalie like that on the eve of the playoffs.
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                          • Downinfloflo
                            Victimizing The Victimizer
                            • Aug 2012
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                            #28
                            Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            Miller's not what he was 4 years ago but he's still easily a top 10 goaltender in the league.

                            And dealing the team's recent failures, he has two conf finals runs under his belt so he knows the playoffs.

                            I can't imagine that no one out there wants a goalie like that on the eve of the playoffs.
                            The teams that are in the playoff picture are happy with their goalies..(you don't get there with out it)Plus Millers a UFA who's going to want $7m a year.

                            The team that trades for him has to keep that in mind and may not be willing to trade away any of their current contracts that could offset the cost.

                            He's a goalie, They don't get moved at the deadline as rentals like forwards do.

                            And Murray's price may be to high.
                            Last edited by Downinfloflo; 02-25-2014, 11:45 AM.

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                            • OpIv37
                              Acid Douching Asswipe
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 101313

                              #29
                              Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                              One other thing:

                              The person said the team's first option is trading Miller, who is in the final year of his contract and eligible to become an unrestricted free agent. Option No. 2, the person added, would be making a bid to re-sign Miller if a trade can't be completed.
                              Option 2 isn't really an option. It's more like a gamble. If Miller decides he doesn't want to languish here for the rest of his career, or that he wants to be closer to his wife, or if some other team offers him more money, he's gone. The supposed "option" may or may not actually be on the table for the team.
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                              • Downinfloflo
                                Victimizing The Victimizer
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 16720

                                #30
                                Re: Miller is ready to move on, so let him

                                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                                One other thing:



                                Option 2 isn't really an option. It's more like a gamble. If Miller decides he doesn't want to languish here for the rest of his career, or that he wants to be closer to his wife, or if some other team offers him more money, he's gone. The supposed "option" may or may not actually be on the table for the team.
                                So it sounds like you take what you can get and just move on..Teams may have offered 2014 draft picks for Miller but since they say this draft is pretty much poop.

                                Murray may be trying for 2015 picks and teams are not willing to go that route..The other GM's are aware that Murray is not dealing from a position of strength.

                                Anyone have any idea what the teams are that Miller will not agree to get traded to?

                                And who do you think is a viable option for Miller at this current time?

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