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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Wow, they don't have a clue. What a cluster****.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    We'll be the ones to find it underwater, everyone dead, they'll find out something stupid happened, everyone will blame us anyway.

    And the aliens from Deneb pull off another one.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    We'll be the ones to find it underwater, everyone dead, they'll find out something stupid happened, everyone will blame us anyway.

    And the aliens from Deneb pull off another one.
    Did you catch the part about transponders being turned off at separate times? I guess you could term that "stupid."

    Oops!

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    I am so sick and tired of hearing all of the scenarios of what "may" have happened. The media needs to report the NEWS, not what ifs. At this point, i couldn't care less what happened to that ****ing plane.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    I think after this incident aviation people should rethink the way planes are tracked. I don't think the tracking devices should be able to be turned off by anyone. They should be on all the time. I just hope they're able to find this plane. I can't imagine what the families of all the missing people are going through. They need closure. God bless all of them!


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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    This has become like Lost, life is imitating art:

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/14/world/...html?hpt=hp_t1

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Valerie View Post
    I think after this incident aviation people should rethink the way planes are tracked. I don't think the tracking devices should be able to be turned off by anyone. They should be on all the time.
    I thought after 9-11 there would be a move towards this.

    Some major changes would have to be made. If a transponder is "squawking" all the time, it would be impossible in today's system for controllers to handle the volume. Imagine every airplane on every gate in Chicago/Atlanta etc., showing up on a radar display. It would completely destroy the screen.

    The process now is to turn it on in the US when leaving the gate.

    My original thought was to have them auto on at engine start, ut even that would result in too much "noise."

    My proposal would be to have them use two separate codes. As it is now, each flight is assigned a four digit code that is used to identify its flight number, aircraft type, altitude and position. The discrete code comes with the initial clearance. I would keep that intact. What I would add is a single code that is always on and can be filtered from the controller's scope.

    If something like this happens, you simply remove the filter option and they all show up.

    That is gov thing though. It would be a lot simpler if people simply quit trying to use airplanes as weapons.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    Did you catch the part about transponders being turned off at separate times? I guess you could term that "stupid."

    Oops!

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    Be careful Patti. "Turned off" is not a point that is proven. Both systems stopped transmitting. In all likelihood they were turned off, but there is also a scenario that would cause the same thing.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by gameboy View Post
    I thought after 9-11 there would be a move towards this.

    Some major changes would have to be made. If a transponder is "squawking" all the time, it would be impossible in today's system for controllers to handle the volume. Imagine every airplane on every gate in Chicago/Atlanta etc., showing up on a radar display. It would completely destroy the screen.

    The process now is to turn it on in the US when leaving the gate.

    My original thought was to have them auto on at engine start, ut even that would result in too much "noise."

    My proposal would be to have them use two separate codes. As it is now, each flight is assigned a four digit code that is used to identify its flight number, aircraft type, altitude and position. The discrete code comes with the initial clearance. I would keep that intact. What I would add is a single code that is always on and can be filtered from the controller's scope.

    If something like this happens, you simply remove the filter option and they all show up.

    That is gov thing though. It would be a lot simpler if people simply quit trying to use airplanes as weapons.
    you could have it automatically respond to altitude. once the plane is one foot off the ground, its on. and it cant be turned off till all wheels are on the ground.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
    you could have it automatically respond to altitude. once the plane is one foot off the ground, its on. and it cant be turned off till all wheels are on the ground.
    That would work, since all of these airliners have an air/ground logic circuit.

    A problem with only having one that only responds to interrogations in the air is that ground controllers rely on transponders to control ground traffic, so you'd still need two.

    Airports with significant ground traffic need responses on the ground.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?


    (Reuters) - Military radar data suggests a Malaysia Airlines jetliner missing for nearly a week was deliberately flown hundreds of miles off course, heightening suspicions of foul play among investigators, sources told Reuters on Friday.

    Analysis of the Malaysia data suggests the plane, with 239 people on board, diverted from its intended northeast route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing and flew west instead, using airline flight corridors normally employed for routes to the Middle East and Europe, said sources familiar with investigations into the Boeing 777's disappearance.

    Radar Data Suggests Plane Deliberately Flown Off Course


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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Based on the background of the pilots, I don't see them as a likely part of the plot.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    Based on the background of the pilots, I don't see them as a likely part of the plot.

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    You have an established plot?

    Nobody knows what happened or where it is.

    News media has not authored one single piece that I am aware of that is as accurate as what I posted above, and they are getting paid for output, and you are able to draw a conclusion?

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    The captain is the same one-armed man that masterminded 9-11 and Sandy Hook.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    the plane was nicknamed "Red October"?

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by gameboy View Post
    You have an established plot?

    Nobody knows what happened or where it is.

    News media has not authored one single piece that I am aware of that is as accurate as what I posted above, and they are getting paid for output, and you are able to draw a conclusion?
    We have established that there was a plot.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Detectives are investigating the pilots.

    The pilot had a flight simulator in his house, although I wouldn't think that would be unusual. Hell, a neighbor of my mother has one.
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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by Discotrish View Post
    We have established that there was a plot.

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    You are using a Sparty tactic here, using the word we as instead of they.

    You are not part of we, and you have established nothing.
    To claim that the background of the cockpit crew indicates they were not part of it is ridiculous.

    I fully expect this will be solved, but nothing is established and the media that you so readily consume has been an embarrassment, as always. if you derive any conclusions from them, you are making a mistake.

    I rarely watch morning network shows, but today the NBC "Today" show was on at a place I was doing business at.

    I specifically heard a reporter, in a discussion of this, mention the need to look at ground personnel. He stated that there could have been stowaways in the cargo areas, and claimed as fact that the cargo compartments, while pressurized, are not climate controlled, and joked about survival in a compartment that he said would be about -45 temp at altitude.
    Wouldn't do any good anyway, 'cause you can't get into the cabin from the cargo areas.

    Total bs, or we carry some pretty amazing dogs/wine bottles/flowers and any number of other things that would never survive such temps.
    I guess that the switches we have called cargo heat and the digital display of the temp in these very same cargo compartments is a trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Detectives are investigating the pilots.

    The pilot had a flight simulator in his house, although I wouldn't think that would be unusual. Hell, a neighbor of my mother has one.
    Very unusual, but some moths fly too close to the flame.

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by gameboy View Post

    Very unusual, but some moths fly too close to the flame.
    It would be unusual for a pilot to have a simulator in his home?

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    Re: No threads about the missing plane and 300 people?!?!?!?

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    It would be unusual for a pilot to have a simulator in his home?
    I've never heard of anyone who does this for a living having such a hobby at home.

    I doubt it means anything, but it's pretty weird.

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