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  • Downinfloflo
    Victimizing The Victimizer
    • Aug 2012
    • 16501

    #31
    Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

    Originally posted by Ginger Vitis View Post
    That is Flo Flo logic at it's finest.. He uses the Islanders as a example as a recent bad rebuilding program yet he thinks the Islanders will have a great team next year and the 2015 draft pick they give the Sabres wont't be anywhere close to a lottery pick
    Recent? The Islanders have been rebuilding for over 10 years. And they are finally getting close. Do any of you watch the NHL outside of the Sabres??

    The Buffalo Sabres are not just a bad team, They are God awful, And it's going to be a LOOOONG time before they get any better.

    You will NOT draft your way out of the basement, You will be lucky to land 4 NHL players from all of the draft choices you have over the next 2 years.

    And if the Sabres strike out completely on those draft picks, That 5 year rebuild will turn into 8 or more, It's real bad in Sabres land folks, NHL record setting kind of bad.
    Last edited by Downinfloflo; 04-02-2014, 10:44 PM.

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    • Dr. Lecter
      Zero for Zero!
      • Mar 2003
      • 67938

      #32
      Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

      Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
      Recent? The Islanders have been rebuilding for over 10 years. And they are finally getting close. Do any of you watch the NHL outside of the Sabres??

      The Buffalo Sabres are not just a bad team, They are God awful, And it's going to be a LOOOONG time before they get any better.

      You will NOT draft your way out of the basement, You will be lucky to land 4 NHL players from all of the draft choices you have over the next 2 years.

      And if the Sabres strike out completely on those draft picks, That 5 year rebuild will turn into 8 or more, It's real bad in Sabres land folks, NHL record setting kind of bad.
      You assume that they have no other NHL prospects in their system. They do have one of the top ranked prospect pools in the NHL. Guys like McCabe, Risto, Zadarov, Armia, Kea, Pysyk, etc and all likely to be on the team in 1-3 years.

      What they need to do is get star players the next two years.

      And your comment about being lucky to get 4 NHL players the next two years is absurd anyway, with the number of picks they have. Look at how many 1st and 2nd rounds picks they have

      None of this promises them greatness. But it is not like they have no shot. Many teams have been built to greatness after being downright awful
      Originally posted by mysticsoto
      Lecter is right in everything he said.

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      • gebobs
        One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
        • Sep 2003
        • 11520

        #33
        Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

        Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
        5 years.
        STFU already.
        Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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        • coastal
          Legendary Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 15513

          #34
          Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

          The Sabres have the makings of a badass D in as short as two years from now... could be a dominant one pending development, injury and retention.

          They need five to six 25-30 goal scorers IMO to be Cup competitive.

          They should get get one with their 1st pick this year. Let's assume there is one already developing and one currently on the team (Ennis)...

          That leaves two... Let's assume they get one in free agency and one with one of their 2015 first round picks.

          well.. That's 5.

          Let's assume they need the full 6... trade deadline pickup.

          all that remains is a goalie.

          The Isles rebuild and floflo can shampoo my crotch.
          Last edited by coastal; 04-03-2014, 09:48 AM.

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          • JATMtheJATM
            Registered User
            • Aug 2012
            • 59267

            #35
            Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

            Originally posted by coastal View Post
            The Sabres have the makings of a badass D in as short as two years from now... could be a dominant one pending development, injury and retention.

            They need five to six 25-30 goal scorers IMO to be Cup competitive.

            They should get get one with their 1st pick this year. Let's assume there is one already developing and one currently on the team (Ennis)...

            That leaves two... Let's assume they get one in free agency and one with one of their 2015 first round picks.

            well.. That's 5.

            Let's assume they need the full 6... trade deadline pickup.

            all that remains is a goalie.

            The Isles rebuild and floflo can shampoo my crotch.
            thats why i keep saying get a goalie high in this draft. its weak. so its ok to risk the pick on a goalie. get a goalie. early second rounder if need be.
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            • JATMtheJATM
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 59267

              #36
              Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

              Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
              All ready showed you in great detail that your line of thinking is critically flawed in regards to those teams.

              But your "FEELINGS" get in the way.

              And yes, The Islanders are way ahead of the Sabres in regards to building a winning franchise, How many years have they been at it? Do you even know?
              how exactly have i shown a critical flaw? i dont think you know.

              we get it, you think the sabres suck and will suck. who cares? none of us can a single thing about it, so why you are so obsessed with the sabres rebuild and what others think of it is puzzling.
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              • JATMtheJATM
                Registered User
                • Aug 2012
                • 59267

                #37
                Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                Originally posted by coastal View Post
                The Sabres have the makings of a badass D in as short as two years from now... could be a dominant one pending development, injury and retention.

                They need five to six 25-30 goal scorers IMO to be Cup competitive.

                They should get get one with their 1st pick this year. Let's assume there is one already developing and one currently on the team (Ennis)...

                That leaves two... Let's assume they get one in free agency and one with one of their 2015 first round picks.

                well.. That's 5.

                Let's assume they need the full 6... trade deadline pickup.

                all that remains is a goalie.

                The Isles rebuild and floflo can shampoo my crotch.
                if the sabres have a bad ass D, which is likely, they wont even need that many goal scorers. they will be able to grind out lower scoring games and win games. its not ideal, id love the perfectly rounded team as well, but if the D is good, expect nolan and murray to coach and build to that advantage by getting defensive forwards in the system. they already have some of them. hopefully, thats why the sabres draft reinhart or bennett. scoring forwards who also excel in their own zone.

                but the worst thing that can happen is having a great defensive team, and having a ****ty goalie. they have to focus on getting a young goaltender. the future of the sabres crease is likely not a sabre right now.
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                • sukie
                  Seriously?
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 21511

                  #38
                  Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                  the D was to be BADASS a few years ago... never happened so I understand some doubting views.

                  With Miller and Vanek gone the team has undergone the enema that was long overdue... (Stafford is clinging to a polyp)... I have zero expectations going forward... just delight at the possibilities a few years from now.

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                  • Downinfloflo
                    Victimizing The Victimizer
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 16501

                    #39
                    Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                    Originally posted by sukie View Post
                    the D was to be BADASS a few years ago... never happened so I understand some doubting views.

                    With Miller and Vanek gone the team has undergone the enema that was long overdue... (Stafford is clinging to a polyp)... I have zero expectations going forward... just delight at the possibilities a few years from now.
                    Thank you, And these same guys thought the Sabres were cup contenders when the Steve Ott trade happened...HAHAHA!!

                    Oh.... and for you other guys, The team with the best defensive prospects in the NHL is the Islanders..

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                    • Downinfloflo
                      Victimizing The Victimizer
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 16501

                      #40
                      Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                      Originally posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
                      You assume that they have no other NHL prospects in their system. They do have one of the top ranked prospect pools in the NHL. Guys like McCabe, Risto, Zadarov, Armia, Kea, Pysyk, etc and all likely to be on the team in 1-3 years.

                      What they need to do is get star players the next two years.

                      And your comment about being lucky to get 4 NHL players the next two years is absurd anyway, with the number of picks they have. Look at how many 1st and 2nd rounds picks they have

                      None of this promises them greatness. But it is not like they have no shot. Many teams have been built to greatness after being downright awful
                      No it's not, That's the reality of the draft, Just go back and look at the draft history, And you will see all the draft bust, It's crazy how many guys don't make it.

                      JATM likes to talk about the Hawks, Penguins and so forth, Yet he don't realize each of those teams struck out for years in the draft and spent an average of 5 years or more building their teams.

                      The Hawks draft's were particularly awful. They landed like 5 players in 8 years of drafting.

                      Last edited by Downinfloflo; 04-03-2014, 04:59 PM.

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                      • JATMtheJATM
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 59267

                        #41
                        Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                        Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
                        No it's not, That's the reality of the draft, Just go back and look at the draft history, And you will see all the draft bust, It's crazy how many guys don't make it.

                        JATM likes to talk about the Hawks, Penguins and so forth, Yet he don't realize each of those teams struck out for years in the draft and spent an average of 5 years or more building their teams.

                        The Hawks draft's were particularly awful. They landed like 5 players in 8 years of drafting.

                        http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/
                        uh, the pens missed the post season 4 seasons in their rebuild. and didnt miss on their lottery picks for the most part. and thats starting from scratch. which the sabres are not.

                        the hawks are a completely different animal. the hawks had a dismal ownership group and a front office that was ruining that team. the chicago wolves out drew the hawks in that time period. the hawks wouldnt even televise home games. losing isnt necessarily a rebuild without direction. something the sabres have.
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                        • OpIv37
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                          • Sep 2002
                          • 101238

                          #42
                          Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                          Getting back to the original discussion: Sabres need just 2 goals in 4 games to break the 151-goal futility mark. It's likely that they will beat it, but not a given.
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                          • SpikedLemonade
                            • Jun 2024

                            #43
                            Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                            Getting back to the original discussion: Sabres need just 2 goals in 4 games to break the 151-goal futility mark. It's likely that they will beat it, but not a given.
                            Bruins on Sunday in Boston may be still in the running for the Jennings Trophy and if so, will start Rask hoping he gets a shut out.

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                            • gebobs
                              One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 11520

                              #44
                              Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                              Originally posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
                              Bruins on Sunday in Boston may be still in the running for the Jennings Trophy and if so, will start Rask hoping he gets a shut out.
                              I'm sure that would be very interesting to chat about on a Bruins forum.
                              Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                              • SkateZilla
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                                • Dec 2002
                                • 9166

                                #45
                                Re: Sabres at Risk of Becoming NHL's Lowest-Scoring Team Since 1936

                                Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                                uh, the pens missed the post season 4 seasons in their rebuild. and didnt miss on their lottery picks for the most part. and thats starting from scratch. which the sabres are not.

                                the hawks are a completely different animal. the hawks had a dismal ownership group and a front office that was ruining that team. the chicago wolves out drew the hawks in that time period. the hawks wouldnt even televise home games. losing isnt necessarily a rebuild without direction. something the sabres have.

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