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  • JATMtheJATM
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    • Aug 2012
    • 59365

    #16
    Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

    Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    Sabres would have to keep what ever contracts they bring back.. (No big deal really)

    You can't buy out anyone you trade for, You are stuck with that contract unless you can trade it again or it runs out.
    no, they can use their compliance buy outs on recently traded for players.

    Last edited by JATMtheJATM; 06-16-2014, 12:06 PM.
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    • Downinfloflo
      Victimizing The Victimizer
      • Aug 2012
      • 16594

      #17
      Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

      Yes....Regular buyouts, Where it would count against the cap.

      The Islanders are still paying for Yashin, He has a cap hit of $2.2m and it's been 7 years since he played for the team.
      Last edited by Downinfloflo; 06-16-2014, 01:57 PM.

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      • SkateZilla
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        • Dec 2002
        • 9166

        #18
        Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

        You can thank the sabres for humiliating him in the playoffs that year, and Nolan for putting him in the dog house.

        Hmmm... Ironic Eh?
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        • JATMtheJATM
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          • Aug 2012
          • 59365

          #19
          Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

          Originally posted by Downinfloflo View Post
          Yes....Regular buyouts, Where it would count against the cap.

          The Islanders are still paying for Yashin, He has a cap hit of $2.2m and it's been 7 years since he played for the team.
          so then yes they can trade for bad contracts and buy them out.
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          • Downinfloflo
            Victimizing The Victimizer
            • Aug 2012
            • 16594

            #20
            Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

            Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
            so then yes they can trade for bad contracts and buy them out.
            Yep...They would have to eat the cap hit that comes with it.

            Compliance buy outs don't count against the cap.

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            • JATMtheJATM
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              • Aug 2012
              • 59365

              #21
              Re: NHL Draft discussion threadi

              From the sounds of it, the Sabres can use their compliance buyouts on traded players. Its why ville leino may MAY not get bought out.
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              • Downinfloflo
                Victimizing The Victimizer
                • Aug 2012
                • 16594

                #22
                Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                I've been looking into it, Sound's like Buffalo will take guys you want to buy out and keep them just to get to the cap floor ($14m) under at the moment.

                They would want draft picks as well for being the NHL's garbage contract holders.

                Apparently, Buffalo may be willing to trade for your compliance buyout candidates, provided you are willing to trade your first round pick for one of their 3 second round picks.
                It is actually a strangely effective way for them to hit the cap floor and gain Picks. They are like 14 million away from the cap floor, and could take several contracts other teams do not want(Within reason I am sure. No 6 year huge contracts, etc).

                For instance, San Jose could trade them Havlat(5 million a year cap hit, 1 more year) and their 20th overall 1st round pick for the Buffalo 2nd round 32nd overall.

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                • trapezeus
                  Legendary Zoner
                  • Oct 2004
                  • 19525

                  #23
                  Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                  this seems a little complex, but to me the sabres had two options.
                  1. look at free agency and see if there are gems in the tier 2 level of player and overpay for them to at least get some leadership and goal scoring onto the team.
                  or
                  2. they could do this trade for a player a team doesn't want, take the contract and buy them out to get to the cap.

                  case 1 allows for the team to try and be competitive next year.
                  Case 2 says, "we are just fine sucking next year. we want our picks to pan out to ready to go, top end talent."

                  if they really are leaning on case 2 to be the way to get to the floor, next year will blow. i kind of knew that anyways, but i was hoping we could field a team of young talent and a couple guys the nhl gave up on and make a classic buffalo inspired run. oh well.

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                  • coastal
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15513

                    #24
                    Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                    Edmonton is looking for two defensemen... one a north south puck mover.

                    Is Myers in play?

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                    • GreedoII
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                      • Aug 2007
                      • 1301

                      #25
                      Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                      Living in the Philly area I will be attending this event with high hopes and expectations....I expect wheeling and dealing...

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                      • The Jokeman
                        Registered User
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 9995

                        #26
                        Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                        Originally posted by coastal View Post
                        Edmonton is looking for two defensemen... one a north south puck mover.

                        Is Myers in play?
                        It depends, what's Edmonton giving us back? If it's a draft pick in 2014 then I don't want it. If it's a player the only guy I'd consider would be Taylor Hall but doubt he'd be dealt.

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                        • JATMtheJATM
                          Registered User
                          • Aug 2012
                          • 59365

                          #27
                          Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                          Originally posted by coastal View Post
                          Edmonton is looking for two defensemen... one a north south puck mover.

                          Is Myers in play?
                          He is in play from what I've read. But the return would have to be a huge haul. Murray knows that myers is a major asset.

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                          Originally posted by coastal View Post
                          Edmonton is looking for two defensemen... one a north south puck mover.

                          Is Myers in play?
                          He is in play from what I've read. But the return would have to be a huge haul. Murray knows that myers is a major asset.
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                          • Ginger Vitis
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                            • Feb 2009
                            • 3451

                            #28
                            Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                            Interesting video i thought Ekblad interviewed well he didn't get defensive or flustered when put on the spot 1) Ekblad claims he is working on his foot speed this summer if he can improve it he could be Shea Weber like 2) A couple of the Sabres brass suggested to him what is being said about him in NHL circles that he may be maxed out physically..I would think over the next 5 years he should be able to get to 230 pounds 3) Murray claimed awhile ago he wasn't sure Ekblad was "dynamic" enough to go No.1 and he point blank asked Ekblad if he was content to be rock solid and steady or would he take chances and be impactful and dynamic every night

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                            • mightysimi
                              Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 6334

                              #29
                              Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                              Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                              He is in play from what I've read. But the return would have to be a huge haul. Murray knows that myers is a major asset.
                              Would you take Yakopov or Eberle and a 1? Gagner and a couple of picks? No way Hall or RNH go in any deal.

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                              • JATMtheJATM
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 59365

                                #30
                                Re: NHL Draft discussion thread

                                Originally posted by mightysimi View Post
                                Would you take Yakopov or Eberle and a 1? Gagner and a couple of picks? No way Hall or RNH go in any deal.
                                i would take eberle and a 1, absolutely. but, im not murray, sadly.

                                but i think thats the type of haul murray and the sabres are looking for if they move myers. so i dont see it happening.
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