Any of you Brave bashers out there wanna take on the challenge?

[WG]

BFO challenged me to rank Bledsoe amongst other NFL QBs. But when asked what the criteria was "we" came up empty. He may have posted it somewhere in the meantime, if so I missed it.

Nevertheless, I wrote a piece defending Jerry Gray and the play of the D and in it had to berate the play of the offense and Drew in particular since there's a chasm between reality and perception for why the Bills won games last year among other things.

Meanwhile, I get bashed for standing up for Gray, the D, the D players, and Henry in the past as if "how dare I take credit away from Drew that's 'already been assigned' to him." Appropriately or inappropriately.

So the challenge is this. I'll rank where I think Bledsoe rates if someone can give me a criteria for it. It has to be a criteria that all QBs can be rated against and one that is objective yet fair and considers most if not all aspects of a QB's play.

Any takers?

Then I'll put my list of all QBs in this league that I think are better/worse.

[Ebenezer]

answer my question first, the same one I've asked for almost a year...

If not Bledsoe, who would be the QB of your football team?

[Michael82]

Travis Brown!

[Ð]

Bring back RJ

Bring back RJ

[Novacane]

Why bother Wys.......................we know you will have him 25 or lower. We got the point a long time ago.........you don't like him.

[TedMock]

Wys, you're losing it you know that?. I'm just curious as to what you have in mind. Rating, TD's, Int's, Comp%, Yards, Sacks.... Streaks? Or you can look at intangibles or other attributes such as accuracy, decision making, arm strength, leadership, consistency etc... I'm not up for the challenge myself simply because I don't think he's as good as some give him credit for or as bad as you say at times. I think that individual stats are a small part of what makes a ballplayer. Baseball's different, stats actually tell you what happened seeing it's the most "individual" of the team sports. Football, Basketball and Hockey can't be accurately judged that way. TD's, Sacks, Fumbles, Completions etc... are all partially due to the performance and/or lack of performance of your OL, RB's, TE's and WR's. They can pad your stats in one game and ruin them in another. Play calling on both sides of the ball effect what you're doing as well. So I'm out on that front. I know your feelings so I'm curious to see what somebody else may challenge you to.

[Dozerdog]

WysCoastfin rankings are pre determined? GET OUT!

[LtBillsFan66]

Originally posted by Ebenezer
answer my question first, the same one I've asked for almost a year...

If not Bledsoe, who would be the QB of your football team?

He needs to know what "criteria" first.

[Earthquake Enyart]

Why do you think the QB rating number is so complicated?

If it were easy, women would do it.

Maybe Rush can help us out with this one.

[MDFINFAN]

Okay Wys, I'm not scared, I like Drew so I'll provide the Criteria.

1. Arm strength
2. Ability to see the field (make audibles, catch blitzes, read D's, etc.) I think you get the picture.
3. Mobility
4. Leadership
5. Passing ability
6. Mental toughness
7. Passing Accuracy--short ball, medium ball, deep ball
8. Play fake ability
9. Speed to get in position to make throw, ie. 3 step 5 step. and 7 step drops. Does his abilities allow him to make these throws without a lot of pressure on his OL.
8. Quick Release, able to get ball out of his hand, once he makes up his mind where he's going to throw.
9. Savvy..ability to confuse D. whether he's going to pass or run..looking off main recievers when throwing, execution of plays, etc.
10. Based on when you got Drew, who could you have gotten who was better? Rate the available qb's at that time who were better than Drew.

[LtBillsFan66]

Yeah, what MDFINFAN said.

[LtBillsFan66]

Am I leaving anyone out of my top 15? It's a little tricky to judge from 10 on. I have DB at #9 in the league. Meaning they are the only 8 I would want instead of Drew. Including Vick, who (I may be alone here) I think is way overhyped.

D. McNabb, PHI
R. Gannon, OAK
P. Manning, IND
C. Pennington, NYJ
B. Favre, GB
B. Johnson, TB
J. Garcia, SF
Tom Brady, NE
D. Bledsoe, BUF
K. Collins, NYG
M. Brunell, JAC
T. Green, KC
M. Vick, ATL
S. McNair, TEN
M. Hasselbeck, SEA

[Earthquake Enyart]

Wys wants to crunch numbers.

All the things you list are subjective.

[LtBillsFan66]

[Bulldog]

BF1, I agree with most of the selections on your list except B. Johnson and P. Manning. Manning is a good QB, but when I watch the Colts play, I often find myself questioning his desire. Sometimes it just seems like he gives up. Not what you want out of arguably the most important position on the field. And B. Johnson's best year was when he was with the Redskins. I just woulden't put him that high on my list.

[LtBillsFan66]

Points well taken.

For some reason I think Manning is much better than he has shown at time. A little bias on my part...

I give Brad Johnson points (see wys you can't find this stat) for leadership and toughness.

It's tough to actually list. However, I don't think it's hard to admit ( admit in wys case) that Bledsoe is a top 10 QB in the NFL.

[HenryRules]

Why do you have to have someone else's criteria to make your own list? That makes no sense at all to me ... if someone else provides the criteria, then the list of top-10 QB's would be their list, not yours.

[Nighthawk]

Wys likes to hear himself speak! I think we should come up with a criteria for why we don't want to hear Wys bit*h anymore about Bledsoe!

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by Dozerdog
WysCoastfin rankings are pre determined? GET OUT!

[SABURZFAN]

Originally posted by Nighthawk
Wys likes to hear himself speak! I think we should come up with a criteria for why we don't want to hear Wys bit*h anymore about Bledsoe!

i think that i'll bring that up in the next Ostrich Club meeting.