Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

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  • better days
    Registered User
    • Jan 2010
    • 22028

    #16
    Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

    Originally posted by Ed View Post
    Even if the beneficiary(Mary Wilson) is one of the trustees?
    I would think Mary Wilson has final say over who the Bills are sold to.

    The trust can make recommendations to her.

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    • trapezeus
      Legendary Zoner
      • Oct 2004
      • 19525

      #17
      Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

      Originally posted by WagonCircler View Post
      This Clippers thing worries the hell out of me. The damned fool who just paid $2 BIL just set the market at a way higher price for all franchises. Something smells very fishy about the whole situation.
      could be argued that he did it to stop a prolonged battle with the sterlings. give them a price that gives the NBA what they want and the Sterlings what they want.

      it's also rumored that because its a forced sale, sterling doesn't have to pay capital gains tax. which is a huge incentive to sell since he bought the team for like $30MM back in the day.

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      • stuckincincy
        Buffalo Bills Fan
        • Sep 2003
        • 15084

        #18
        Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

        Originally posted by Ed View Post
        Even if the beneficiary(Mary Wilson) is one of the trustees?
        I wouldn't think so. She is one voice among the others. The trustees were appointed to act in the best fiduciary interest of the beneficiaries. Assumably, that was why RWS established the trust.
        Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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        • better days
          Registered User
          • Jan 2010
          • 22028

          #19
          Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

          Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
          I wouldn't think so. She is one voice among the others. The trustees were appointed to act in the best fiduciary interest of the beneficiaries. Assumably, that was why RWS established the trust.
          As Controlling owner I would think Mary Wilson has final say.
          Last edited by better days; 05-30-2014, 02:15 PM.

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          • stuckincincy
            Buffalo Bills Fan
            • Sep 2003
            • 15084

            #20
            Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

            Originally posted by better days View Post
            As Controlling owner I would think Mary Wilson has final say.
            AFAIK, ownership is in the hands of a trust. There is no controlling owner.
            Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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            • better days
              Registered User
              • Jan 2010
              • 22028

              #21
              Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

              Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
              AFAIK, ownership is in the hands of a trust. There is no controlling owner.
              NO, Mary Wilson was made controlling owner.

              I guess it takes time for news to reach Cinci.

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              • stuckincincy
                Buffalo Bills Fan
                • Sep 2003
                • 15084

                #22
                Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

                Originally posted by better days View Post
                NO, Mary Wilson was made controlling owner.

                I guess it takes time for news to reach Cinci.
                It takes decades for news to reach Cincinnati.

                Elaborate...AFAIK, a trust removes individual ownership, handing the business to the decisions of the trustees, and their majority vote in this case, guided by the trust document language put into ink by the entity that established it. No?
                Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                • better days
                  Registered User
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 22028

                  #23
                  Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

                  Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                  It takes decades for news to reach Cincinnati.

                  Elaborate...AFAIK, a trust removes individual ownership, handing the business to the decisions of the trustees, and their majority vote in this case, guided by the trust document language put into ink by the entity that established it. No?
                  I just bumped the thread about Mary Wilson being made controlling owner.

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                  • stuckincincy
                    Buffalo Bills Fan
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 15084

                    #24
                    Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

                    Originally posted by better days View Post
                    I just bumped the thread about Mary Wilson being made controlling owner.
                    So - are you saying that there was no trust established?
                    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #25
                      Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

                      Originally posted by stuckincincy View Post
                      So - are you saying that there was no trust established?
                      No, read the thread.

                      I'm saying AFTER the trust was established, Mary Wilson was named CONTROLLING owner.

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                      • TedMock
                        Registered User
                        • Jul 2002
                        • 3221

                        #26
                        Re: Will The Bills Have A New Owner Before The Season Starts?

                        I think you guys are reading too much into this. The NFL by-laws require that each team name an individual principal owner (aka controlling owner). Why? Each team gets to vote on league matters. A trust cannot individually vote. The spouse of the deceased owner just makes sense. Having said that, I am not suggesting that Mary Wilson will vote on any leage matters. She has the right to assign her vote to another team executive. That's how Brandon and Littman voted at different points when Ralph was ill. Brandon most often. I assume this will continue. The entire thing is nothing more than a formality, really. It won't have any effect on the sale.

                        As for the sale - yes, the trust has a fiduciary duty. That does not necessarily mean to the highest bidder. It means "in the best interest of the trust." That could be sliced and diced all ways. Highest bidder is typically a safe way to go. The keys are whether there are any special circumstances drawn up in the trust docs and/or any specific instructions in Ralph's last will and testament. These, if they exist, will help legally determine what is in the best interest of the trust. As far I know, none of this has been made public. Of course, if you hear anything please let us know!

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