Toronto Group Vow Not To Move Bills

[Mace]

I want Pegula.

I think Pegula will let Brandon and company still do their thing for a year or two more before blowing it up. I think Ralph finally got it right with Brandon, whaley(Nix), and Marrone and I want them to get 4 years total so 2 more after this season.

This is the closest to my personal opinion. I'm not entirely positive about the regime, but it needs to play out now and I think Pegula would let it. I also think he can afford to let the team be passed down through his family, and just from general observation, they strike me as a family that will pass things down as time passes, with some degree of cheerful continuity.

I'm biased, I genuinely like Pegula despite some of the Sabres fumbles. Remember when he personally delivered some season tickets, driving his own vehicle ? Pegula seems so Buffalo it will be painful if someone else buys it and won't seem right to me.

[WagonCircler]

[DesertFox24]

I will say though that Jaws comments on how savy Jon Bon Jovi is has me intrigued. I also like what he said about him wanting to hoist a lombardi and will do whatever it takes to get it. Additionally that he is a very hands on guy and wants to be involved in every aspect.

I am very concerned about the Toronto affailation with him though and that is why I do not want him.

Although if he does win the bid I believe it will be very tenious for him and the fans of Buffalo until he actually breaks ground for a new stadium somewhere in Buffalo/Niagara area.

[k-oneputt]

He will have this team in Toronto as soon as he possibly can. Don't believe his bs.

[Ed]

I'm sure in an ideal world the Toronto group would love to be able to move the team, but the reality is that if the NFL says they can't move the team then they're SOL. Goodell and the majority of the owners want the team to stay in Buffalo. If the Toronto group is vowing to keep the team in Buffalo, it's because moving isn't an option and won't be. I'm sure any winning proposal is going to have to include long term plans for Buffalo and a new stadium. They're not going to win the bid without showing a genuine commitment to Buffalo, and even if they propose to move the team in the future, it would still need 24 votes from the other owners. They're not going to get that. All the obstacles with moving to Toronto have been pretty well documented. I hope the Toronto group doesn't win, but even if they do, I'd be more concerned with how they're going to improve the team than if they're going to try and move them.

Here's hoping Pegula comes through and it all becomes moot.

[better days]

I'm sure in an ideal world the Toronto group would love to be able to move the team, but the reality is that if the NFL says they can't move the team then they're SOL. Goodell and the majority of the owners want the team to stay in Buffalo. If the Toronto group is vowing to keep the team in Buffalo, it's because moving isn't an option and won't be. I'm sure any winning proposal is going to have to include long term plans for Buffalo and a new stadium. They're not going to win the bid without showing a genuine commitment to Buffalo, and even if they propose to move the team in the future, it would still need 24 votes from the other owners. They're not going to get that. All the obstacles with moving to Toronto have been pretty well documented. I hope the Toronto group doesn't win, but even if they do, I'd be more concerned with how they're going to improve the team than if they're going to try and move them.

Here's hoping Pegula comes through and it all becomes moot.

Well as I have been saying, there is absolutely no reason to sell the Bills to a Toronto group instead of someone from Buffalo unless the Toronto group offers to pay MUCH more for the team.

And if the Toronto group does pay a fortune to buy the Bills, you can bet it will not be with the intention of keeping the team in Buffalo.

[k-oneputt]

Money. Those 24 owners votes could change.

Here's hoping for Pegula

[SpikedLemonade]

And if the Toronto group does pay a fortune to buy the Bills, you can bet it will not be with the intention of keeping the team in Buffalo.

Why do you say that? Have you not read here about the Buffalo Erie Economic Renaissance(BEER)?

[BillsImpossible]

The Bills made $30M last year. Given they are worth at least $1B, do you consider $30M making money?

Great point.

30 million dollars per year profit is not going to break even on the investment for at least 33 years.

$1 billion divided by 30 million dollars = 33.33 years to pay off.

That's not factoring in how much it would cost to build a new stadium.

[chris66]

Its funny that everyone is clambering for pegula and galisano to keep the Bills in WNY. What most people dont realize is that 1/3 of the fan base is going to be priced out in the next couple of years. when you start factoring 50.00 bucks for parking and avg ticket prices at $120.00.

fast forward 3 years when you cant sell out the stadium for more than 3 games a year. They will end up moving the team to toronto

[Turf]

Great point.

30 million dollars per year profit is not going to break even on the investment for at least 33 years.

$1 billion divided by 30 million dollars = 33.33 years to pay off.

That's not factoring in how much it would cost to build a new stadium.

Um, you make 30 million a year while the value of your team appreciates. So in 10 years you would have made 300 million, and can sell it for more than you paid for it.

[better days]

Um, you make 30 million a year while the value of your team appreciates. So in 10 years you would have made 300 million, and can sell it for more than you paid for it.

An NFL team is not something people want to sell once they own one unless they have to.

Pegula has more money than he can spend in his lifetime.

The Sabres & Bills will be what he owns for enjoyment.

[stuckincincy]

Um, you make 30 million a year while the value of your team appreciates. So in 10 years you would have made 300 million, and can sell it for more than you paid for it.

A 3 percent return per year for plunking down $1bn seems pretty low.

[better days]

Why do you say that? Have you not read here about the Buffalo Erie Economic Renaissance(BEER)?

The reason I say that is that group is from TORONTO.

[better days]

Its funny that everyone is clambering for pegula and galisano to keep the Bills in WNY. What most people dont realize is that 1/3 of the fan base is going to be priced out in the next couple of years. when you start factoring 50.00 bucks for parking and avg ticket prices at $120.00.

fast forward 3 years when you cant sell out the stadium for more than 3 games a year. They will end up moving the team to toronto

Despite what people would have you believe, the Bills are not & have not been at the bottom of the league in regards to prices charged.

[chris66]

Despite what people would have you believe, the Bills are not & have not been at the bottom of the league in regards to prices charged.

what they are 31 out of 32.
with new owners paying top dollar comes higher prices. Expect to pay at least double for everything. The days of season tickets costing below a grand will be done

[stuckincincy]

what they are 31 out of 32.
with new owners paying top dollar comes higher prices. Expect to pay at least double for everything. The days of season tickets costing below a grand will be done

Maybe an issue, maybe not. I'm old. For me, paying 4 bucks for a hot dog or 6 bucks for a beer or any ticket price would have me feel like I've been fleeced and my fault because I paid for the ducat in the first place.

Yet, folks pour into stadiums. Go figure.

[chris66]

Maybe an issue, maybe not. I'm old. For me, paying 4 bucks for a hot dog or 6 bucks for a beer or any ticket price would have me feel like I've been fleeced and my fault because I paid for the ducat in the first place.

Yet, folks pour into stadiums. Go figure.

I wonder how many Bills fans that have moved out of the area that keep season tickets because they are cheap

[stuckincincy]

I wonder how many Bills fans that have moved out of the area that keep season tickets because they are cheap

Many, I hope. Getting live NFL games at lower prices - makes sense. I can't relate to today's prices, but younger folks than me deal with it. Like I said, I'm old.

[SpikedLemonade]

what they are 31 out of 32.
with new owners paying top dollar comes higher prices. Expect to pay at least double for everything. The days of season tickets costing below a grand will be done

Yes 31 out of 32 in average price per ticket and 30 out of 32 in Fan Cost Indix:

The Browns also have the cheapest FCI at $343.80, while Caro-

lina ($365.38), Buffalo ($365.98), Tampa Bay ($366.76), and

Kansas City ($374.68) round out the bottom five.

The cheapest average ticket is once again the Cleveland Brownsat $54.20. The Buffalo Bills ($57.75) are the only other team with
an average ticket price under $60.



https://www.teammarketing.com/public...20fci%2014.pdf


Please don't ask Better Days for anything numbers related since his old calculator is as faulty as his logic.