This whole topic is a mix of illiteracy & conjecture. I'd like to slap the OP's English teacher in the mouth.Originally Posted by Topas
This whole topic is a mix of illiteracy & conjecture. I'd like to slap the OP's English teacher in the mouth.
Last edited by Skooby; 07-24-2014 at 04:01 AM.
SquishDaFish (07-24-2014)
Why's everyone having so much trouble with this, it's right on par with a lot of the logic and rationale here.
You don't really expect that to be the case do you?
The question is why didn't they figure this out in the off season. What the hell were they doing?
Lou Saban: You can get it done, you can get it done. And what’s more, you’ve gotta get it done.
They did try to figure this out during the offseason. They failed.
The time to have "figured this out" was prior to reaching to draft him. It's too late now. To suggest that the way that Manuel is playing was not predictable is ludicrous. Two guys spent more time than anyone assessing Manuel and to date they are spot on. Didn't our marvelous scouting team, led by Whaley, ever read that article? What were they actually looking at besides merely superficial nonsense that they should be overlooking.
Meanwhile, the ones getting screwed, again, is us. Hopefully this results in the end of the honeymoon for Whaley and the absurd notion that he's the next up-and-coming genius among NFL GMs. It gets old reading stuff like that as he runs the team into the ground more than the prior horrible GMs we've had.
Oh please please please please give us a new owner that cares about winning!! Pleeeeaaasseee!!!!
The high school in my district has 7 English teachers...and 13 "Intervention Specialists."
Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.
BillsImpossible (07-24-2014)
Since we are making up numbers what if Tuel has 18TD's and 0 int's and runs for 400 yards in his 5 games and EJ has 2TD's 21 int's and gets arrested with 6 Haitian prostitutes.
Does that sway the decision.
This is fun, making **** up.
kishoph (07-25-2014),SquishDaFish (07-24-2014)
Jeff Tuel will not see snaps with the first teamers in preseason...good lord.
And how does Manuel have anything to do with a competition for backup QB?
kishoph (07-25-2014),SquishDaFish (07-24-2014)
French or Creole?
I think Tuel looked pretty good last year ... he also looked like he wasn't ready.
BillsImpossible (07-24-2014)
Because this isn't fantasy football...gotta see what the players bring to the table during practice.
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SquishDaFish (07-25-2014)
If EJ Manuel continues to suck nuts and shows no signs of improvement, I think the Bills will give Jeff Tuel an opportunity to win the job.
Manuel has a lot to do with the backup QB competition because the backup QB will be his replacement if he doesn't get better.
Marrone is smart enough to not start a QB controversy by saying the starting QB job is, "up for grabs."
Marrone said there will be an open competition for backup QB with a hint, hint, winky wink.
If I were EJ Manuel, my ears would hear, "There will be an open competition."
If Tuel can show that he is the more accurate passer, and can read a defense quicker and better than EJ Manuel, what would you do?
Take a look at the scouting reports on Jeff Tuel, and then compare to EJ Manuel......
http://rotobahn.com/blog/scouting-re...hington-state/
Here are the positive things that show up consistently on film...
- Good mechanics and a good arm. No worries about making the throws at the next level.
- Excellent mobility for a pocket passer. He can buy time and pick up extra yardage at times.
- Has an accurate arm on the intermediate and deep balls.
- Has a good feel for the position. Uses touch when needed but can fire the ball in there too. He throws a beautiful fade ball in the red zone.
- He’s relaxed in the pocket and sees the field well.
- Keeps his eyes downfield even when his protections breaks down, which it often did. This will serve him well as a pro.
- Has a good quick release and can set up and throw when on the run.
http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2013emanuel.php
Weaknesses:Not a natural passer
Decision-making
Field vision
Struggles to work through progressions
Runs to quickly
Spotty accuracy
Can panic at times
Didn't play as well against good defenses
http://www.draftinsider.net/reports/2013/QB/Jeff-Tuel
Patient, game manager who makes good decisions in the pocket. Buys time for receivers, displays good pocket awareness, and remains poised under pressure. Displays enough agility to elude defenders and make throws on the move. Accurate, gives his receivers a chance to make receptions, and displays nice timing on passes. Throws a catchable pass.
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...ngton-state-qb
...the Cougars gunslinger is the most accurate in school history, which places him in with names such as DrewBledsoe....
...It's hard to have outstanding accuracy when arm strength is an issue, but Tuel did well enough in what was a vertical spread offense during his time at Washington State.
...Anticipation and ball location are strengths for Tuel on deep passes, as he routinely drops balls into the cradle of his receivers' arms where only they can reach it.
http://www.fftoolbox.com/nfl_draft/p...ospect_id=3401
EJ Manuel...
Accuracy is up and down. Short arms deep passes at times and must continue to work at not placing throws. Footwork needs to be cleaned up. Throws off-balance when uncomfortable in the pocket. A beat late on some passes will get him in trouble. Works through progressions reasonably well, but needs to be more decisive in his throws.
http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/vi...c-e877792620d2
Inconsistent mechanics
Inaccurate at times
Poise in pocket
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...orida-state-qb
Manuel hasn't demonstrated that he can patiently go deep into progressions or process defenses at an advanced level. In general, he wasn't asked to do many advanced tasks as a passer at Florida State. He sometimes looks hesitant to pull the trigger and tends to err on the side of taking his checkdown option. Manuel's deep-ball accuracy is very erratic.
Sure about that, GingerP?
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