Correct, my bad, obviously. You know what I meant, clearly I meant his last season there. Everything is based on that. Evans was a Jr. too fwiw.Originally Posted by Ginger Vitis
Come on now, really?
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I agree. I post a simple questiion and the *****ers come out in droves.
Good call!
Oh the irony.
So Fletch assumes because Evans is 3 and a half inches taller than Watkins Evans would do a better job catching Manuels errant throws.. Here is a quote from Mikey 82 regarding Watkins " and is bailing out EJ Manuel several times each day on poorly thrown balls that he still manages to catch"
Looks like Watkins was the best WR in the past draft class for saving Manuels ass
Actually, if comparing the skill sets of the two wide receivers, Watkins has a better chance of putting up bigger numbers and contributing more out of the gate than Evans. Watkins has the advantage early just based on pure athleticism and perceived use by the offensive scheme, and Evans' learning curve is going to be larger and longer. How that translates over an entire career for both is dependent on a lot of factors, and remains to be seen. That being said, I would bet that Watkins will also be more susceptible to injury.
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Why do you think Watkins will be more susceptable to injury than Evans?
Because of his size or his style of play?
If it is his size, Gronk is a BIG guy who gets injured all the time.
I wouldn't think because of size - he's 6'1", 211 lb. My guess would be that he's going to be expected to roam the middle, and also catch some short stuff where a defender closes quickly.
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And he also runs like a RB when he gets the ball in his hands.
I think he will be exciting to watch.
But you never know about guys ability to stay healthy.
Look at Favre, he ran around a lot for a long period of time and never was seriously injured.
Then you have Rob Johnson.
Wasn't that said about Josh Reed?
Yeah it was. Good memory.
The difference between Watkins and Reed is comparable to the difference between CJ Spiller & Tashard Choice.
I always thought they could have done a better job with Reed.
Watkins is probably going to work the higher traffic areas, where Evans will be outside. More hits, etc.
Maybe 'susceptible' wasn't the best term to use...perhaps 'exposed' would have been better.
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Well, he was still young enough when the Bills let him go.
Nobody else got anything out of him either.
I would have taken Allen Robinson later in the draft & would have kept Stevie and our first next year.
We took Robert Woods over Keenan Allen. Let that sink in.
Stevie didn't get there because he was hurt and missed a quarter of the season, still had 52 catches - which would have put him just below 70 catches playing every game. As I said, someone in the offense has to replace those 70 catches and naturally it's gonna be the guy who's replacing him. Watkins also won't average only 11.5 Y/R
The running backs combined will have around 600 receiving yards. Chandler around 400. Woods around 500. Williams around 500. Everyone else around 200.
This is comical. Apparently you don't understand the overall nature of training camps.
I'm not even going to waste my time explaining what everyone knows.
What's the reasoning behind this? I mean I make statements like this and present evidence. You just make these statements but give no indications as to why you think these things.
Part of what you say is ridiculous. We ranked 29th in red zone production last season. (TDs that is) That's putrid along with many of our other offensive stats. Evans clearly has a much better history in terms of red zone production, that's a fact. Watkins had 2 red zone TDs all season long last year, one in a blowout loss to FSU. 7 of 12 of his TDs were from his own goal line to the opponents' 40.
So if you're talking about "bigger numbers" for TDs, IMO it's foolish to think that Watkins is going to have the same long TD success here as he did in the NFL, and equally foolish to think that Evans won't be similar in the red zone. So if it's scoring you're talking about it would seem to be the opposite of what you say.
If you mean bigger numbers against better teams, there too, what's Watkins' history of that? It's hardly rich. Evans OTOH lit up Alabama like a Christmas tree. So not sure there's a basis of that from that angle. We haven't even addressed the QBs throwing to each either.
If you ask me, Evans would have a better chance of putting up "bigger numbers" and "contributing more out of the gate" than Evans if he were on a team with a QB that knew how to hit his WRs in stride on a regular basis. We don't have that here though, none of 'em. On a dozen other teams I might agree, but not the way that things are now.
Sure, except that Reed's college numbers were better than Watkins'.
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They could have done a better job with a lot of our players.
But when all you do is hire cheap coaches, you get what you pay for. Instead of breaking the bank for players like Fitzpatrick and Mario, if instead they'd spend a fraction of that and add it to what they pay coaches like Marrone and Gailey, then maybe we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Did you read anything at all about Evans? Did you look at any of his stats and how or where he performed the best?
In essence what you're saying here is that both WRs are going to be used in completely the opposite manner in which they buttered their bread in college. Do you see a good reason for saying that, or implying it anyway?
It wouldn't surprise me in the least if our team uses Watkins and tries to do what he has not excelled at, but I doubt that Smith in Tampa is that stupid.
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