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  • OpIv37
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    • Sep 2002
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    #31
    Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

    Originally posted by better days View Post
    Well, Jones couldn't he is out of the NFL.

    And BOTH Woods & Goodwin are BETTER than Nelson.
    So you start this thread by saying that the reason the Bills couldn't win last year is because the WR's couldn't manage more than 3 TD's a piece, and now you're saying how good they are.

    Your bias is nauseating.
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    • better days
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      • Jan 2010
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      #32
      Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
      So you start this thread by saying that the reason the Bills couldn't win last year is because the WR's couldn't manage more than 3 TD's a piece, and now you're saying how good they are.

      Your bias is nauseating.
      WOW, you posted about how NO WR can do much with bad QB play.

      You must be getting senile like me.

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      • OpIv37
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        • Sep 2002
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        #33
        Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

        Originally posted by better days View Post
        Well, why don't you research that & post it for us.

        I don't know necessarily that every team with two receivers with more than 3 TDs puts up a winning record, But I can pretty much guarantee that no team without at least one receiver putting up a LOT of TD's

        will have a losing record.

        And I really believe both Watkins & Williams will put up a number of TD's.
        So, for the 2nd time tonight, you make a claim with no facts or information to back it up, then when you get called out on it, you demand that the person who called you out does all the research to prove the point you attempted to make.

        Come on, this is BS.
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        • OpIv37
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          #34
          Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

          Originally posted by better days View Post
          WOW, you posted about how NO WR can do much with bad QB play.

          You must be getting senile like me.
          except it's a double variable situation.

          Did the WR's struggle because they weren't that good? Or because of bad QB play? Or both? There is no way to tell.

          Of course, Manuel may have benefited from more experienced WRs.... JUST LIKE I SAID LAST OFF-SEASON.
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          • better days
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            #35
            Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

            Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
            except it's a double variable situation.

            Did the WR's struggle because they weren't that good? Or because of bad QB play? Or both? There is no way to tell.

            Of course, Manuel may have benefited from more experienced WRs.... JUST LIKE I SAID LAST OFF-SEASON.
            HOW could Manuel have benefited from more experienced WR's when he was INJURED & not playing?

            Before Manuel got injured, Woods & Goodwin were doing fine. Both would have had better years if Manuel had been able to play the entire year.

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            • OpIv37
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              #36
              Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

              Originally posted by better days View Post
              HOW could Manuel have benefited from more experienced WR's when he was INJURED & not playing?

              Before Manuel got injured, Woods & Goodwin were doing fine. Both would have had better years if Manuel had been able to play the entire year.
              That's an assumption, not a fact.
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              • better days
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                #37
                Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                That's an assumption, not a fact.
                Fine, you can call it an assumption.

                Let's see how Woods & Goodwin do this year.

                Although I do expect Watkins & Williams to put up better numbers.

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                • OpIv37
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                  #38
                  Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                  Originally posted by better days View Post
                  Fine, you can call it an assumption.

                  Let's see how Woods & Goodwin do this year.

                  Although I do expect Watkins & Williams to put up better numbers.
                  I'm not calling it an assumption.

                  What you said is an assumption by definition. A fact is something that can be proven objectively and repeatedly. What you said certainly does not meet that criteria, and you even put a caveat on your statement yourself by saying Watkins and Williams will do better.
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                  • gebobs
                    One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                    • Sep 2003
                    • 11520

                    #39
                    Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                    Originally posted by better days View Post
                    I did say the Bills will win.

                    I am calling it now.

                    All can feel free to laugh at me now.

                    The last laugh is the best.
                    Yeah, we'll all be giggling in our straitjackets as the little men in white suits drag us away for a nice little restful week before Christmas.
                    Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                    • gebobs
                      One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
                      • Sep 2003
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                      #40
                      Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                      Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                      Come on, this is BS.
                      I like to call it opinion.
                      Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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                      • OpIv37
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                        • Sep 2002
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                        #41
                        Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                        Originally posted by gebobs View Post
                        I like to call it opinion.
                        Opinions still need something to support them to be taken seriously.

                        Some opinions are based on using facts and history to come to a logical conclusion. Other opinions are based on emotion and desire. Not all opinions are equally valid.
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                        • better days
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                          #42
                          Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                          Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                          Opinions still need something to support them to be taken seriously.

                          Some opinions are based on using facts and history to come to a logical conclusion. Other opinions are based on emotion and desire. Not all opinions are equally valid.
                          Well, you are right. So how was your opinion that the Bills should have kept Donald Jones working out for you?

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                          • OpIv37
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                            #43
                            Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                            Originally posted by better days View Post
                            Well, you are right. So how was your opinion that the Bills should have kept Donald Jones working out for you?
                            My opinion was not that the Bills should keep Donald Jones.

                            My opinion was that going into the season with a rookie QB and Stevie Johnson, sophomore TJ Graham and a bunch of rookies at WR was a bad idea. I said we needed more experience at WR to support EJ. You assumed that meant keeping Donald Jones, but, contrary to your belief, Donald Jones is not the only experienced WR in the NFL.

                            Oh, and remember that this thread started with you saying that no WR on this team had more than 3 tds. So... maybe, just maybe, more experience at WR would have been beneficial. Hmmmm...
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                            • better days
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                              #44
                              Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                              Originally posted by OpIv37 View Post
                              My opinion was not that the Bills should keep Donald Jones.

                              My opinion was that going into the season with a rookie QB and Stevie Johnson, sophomore TJ Graham and a bunch of rookies at WR was a bad idea. I said we needed more experience at WR to support EJ. You assumed that meant keeping Donald Jones, but, contrary to your belief, Donald Jones is not the only experienced WR in the NFL.

                              Oh, and remember that this thread started with you saying that no WR on this team had more than 3 tds. So... maybe, just maybe, more experience at WR would have been beneficial. Hmmmm...
                              Show us you said experienced receivers aside from Donald Jones.

                              I remember going around & around with you about Jones.

                              Your position was that Jones was experienced.

                              My position was that yes Jones was experienced but MEDIOCRE.

                              I said a talented rookie would be better to have than a mediocre vet.

                              And I still say that. A more experienced WR with TALENT would have helped Manuel, but not a mediocre one.

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                              • OpIv37
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                                #45
                                Re: The reason the Bills will win this year

                                Originally posted by better days View Post
                                Show us you said experienced receivers aside from Donald Jones.

                                I remember going around & around with you about Jones.

                                Your position was that Jones was experienced.

                                My position was that yes Jones was experienced but MEDIOCRE.

                                I said a talented rookie would be better to have than a mediocre vet.

                                And I still say that. A more experienced WR with TALENT would have helped Manuel, but not a mediocre one.
                                You still say that a talented rookie is better than an experienced vet, even though none of your talented rookies managed more than 3 TD's last year?

                                Haha, ok.
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