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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Yes I'm sure all the warm and fuzzy feelings will play into it...

    For starters? How about that's all that matters.

    Really Chuck Schumer? You mean the US Senator from Brooklyn who got 70% and 67% of the popular vote in 2004 and 2010? You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Why would I be disappointed? I want the Bills to stay in Buffalo.
    Yes, really, Chuck Schumer. He is one of the most powerful members of Congress and he would not hesitate for a millisecond to make an issue of the NFL's lack of an anti-trust exemption. He has the power to rain hell on the NFL and on any group intent on moving this franchise.

    I think you're just like Felch and Spikey. I think you're rooting for the Bills to move because you just love to be a dick.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    Yes, really, Chuck Schumer. He is one of the most powerful members of Congress and he would not hesitate for a millisecond to make an issue of the NFL's lack of an anti-trust exemption. He has the power to rain hell on the NFL and on any group intent on moving this franchise.

    I think you're just like Felch and Spikey. I think you're rooting for the Bills to move because you just love to be a dick.
    And Schumer has already made it known he will do everything in his power to keep the Bills in Buffalo.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Yes I'm sure all the warm and fuzzy feelings will play into it...

    For starters? How about that's all that matters.

    Really Chuck Schumer? You mean the US Senator from Brooklyn who got 70% and 67% of the popular vote in 2004 and 2010? You have no idea what you're talking about.

    Why would I be disappointed? I want the Bills to stay in Buffalo.
    That's actually something Bill Polian brought up a month or two ago.

    He said there is one thing the NFL owners are afraid of, its losing their preferential treatment in antitrust laws.

    And he further said that if the Bills move out of the country...there will be people in Washington (without mentioning Schumer specifically) who would be ready to come down on teh NFL. That's why he didn't think a Toronto group had a chance at a franchise that would be moved outside the US.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Well that's honestly closer then I thought it would be.
    I agree

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    Magical thinking? We're basically down to only two realistic bidders and the guy everyone wants just submitted the highest initial bid. The numbers are what they are, it's not magic.
    Really? What have the Bills said about any of this?

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    I'm guessing Golisano is backing out because he knows Pegula will outbid him and he doesn't want to waste the money. Also Golisano sees his ownership as more of a charity to keep the team here, while Pegula wants it.
    Pegula is the clear leader and has the resume as an owner that is an A+. And he may even turn a profit on this, while the Sabres are questionable as far as making money.
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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    The numbers will not help the price go up.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Really? What have the Bills said about any of this?
    NOTHING. And nothing will be said officially until the deal is completed.

    All we can go on is what well connected reporters tell us.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Really? What have the Bills said about any of this?
    Why do they have to say anything right now? All we're talking about are the reported initial bids. Where's the magic?

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Can any party increase their bid amount at this point?

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by tampabay25690 View Post
    The NFL will have so much more say then we all know of...
    I agree. I don't think we all fully understand the process. You can't just buy an NFL team. The NFL owners have to approve the purchase for 1, and then I believe the league itself has to approve it as well.

    It seems that buying a team with the intentions of re-locating it would be way more hassle then it's worth, and maybe the Toronto group is going through this process in preparation for pushing for an expansion franchise.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    , and maybe the Toronto group is going through this process in preparation for pushing for an expansion franchise.
    Interesting hypothesis...
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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by don137 View Post
    Can any party increase their bid amount at this point?
    Absolutely, bids can be increased up until the end.

    The question I have is do the Bidders know what each other is bidding?

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    LOL @ some people wishing and magical thinking their way into getting the owner they want.
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    Really? What have the Bills said about any of this?
    The next owner will be Pegula. Believe it or not, it won't change the reality.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    some of you idiots who keep trying to convince yourselves and others and harping on how the team is gonna move (because you're sadistic a**holes who aren't actually fans of the team) can hopefully give it a f***ing rest now.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by don137 View Post
    Can any party increase their bid amount at this point?
    If, by any party, you mean the three bidders that submitted bids yesterday, then yes. These are non-binding, qualifying bids. Once the field is narrowed down, which now seems to have occurred naturally, the competitive negotiations start.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    Yes, really, Chuck Schumer. He is one of the most powerful members of Congress and he would not hesitate for a millisecond to make an issue of the NFL's lack of an anti-trust exemption. He has the power to rain hell on the NFL and on any group intent on moving this franchise.
    Ah I misread your original point, thought you were saying the blowback on Schumer would be intense. I question what he's going to do from the Rules Committee. What he has said basically equates to what Hatch used to do with the NCAA.

    I think you're just like Felch and Spikey. I think you're rooting for the Bills to move because you just love to be a dick.
    If I wanted to be a dick about this whole thing, I'd be among those idiotically calling Buffalo a dying city and the region struggling. Not talking about its 2013 Population Increase, its growing economy, and the genuine growth that is taking place.
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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G View Post
    That's actually something Bill Polian brought up a month or two ago.

    He said there is one thing the NFL owners are afraid of, its losing their preferential treatment in antitrust laws.

    And he further said that if the Bills move out of the country...there will be people in Washington (without mentioning Schumer specifically) who would be ready to come down on teh NFL. That's why he didn't think a Toronto group had a chance at a franchise that would be moved outside the US.
    What is Schumer going to do from the Senate Rules Committee though? This makes great press, but let's look at this realistically. He's gotta get Wynden to go after the NFL which isn't going to be an easy sell, and that's assuming that in November the Democrats even hold the Senate which right now looks like it won't happen. Then he's gotta get a Republican (right now Hatch) to go after the NFL and considering he's from Utah (which would like an expansion team in Salt Lake City if the NFL ever expands again) I don't see that going much of anywhere.

    Can you imagine the reaction if the US Senate actually took away the NFL's anti-trust exemption because the NFL allowed a team to move?

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    If, by any party, you mean the three bidders that submitted bids yesterday, then yes. These are non-binding, qualifying bids. Once the field is narrowed down, which now seems to have occurred naturally, the competitive negotiations start.
    There was something in Kryk's piece last night that said that its possible the Trust could re-open the bidding period and accept more bids. It was far from a definite but I guess there has been some pushback on the bidding process.

    http://www.torontosun.com/2014/07/29...d-to-buy-bills

    So what does the trust do now? Advance all three bidders to the finalist round? Cut down to just two? Or quietly extend the deadline for first bids?

    The trust can alter dates, deadlines and procedures in the sale process at any time, however it sees fit.

    The trust has set aside next week and the week after to meet individually with finalist bidders. After that, finalists were scheduled to be asked to submit binding, final bids.
    Last edited by DraftBoy; 07-30-2014 at 04:24 PM.

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    Re: Terry with the Early Lead

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    What is Schumer going to do from the Senate Rules Committee though? This makes great press, but let's look at this realistically. He's gotta get Wynden to go after the NFL which isn't going to be an easy sell, and that's assuming that in November the Democrats even hold the Senate which right now looks like it won't happen. Then he's gotta get a Republican (right now Hatch) to go after the NFL and considering he's from Utah (which would like an expansion team in Salt Lake City if the NFL ever expands again) I don't see that going much of anywhere.

    Can you imagine the reaction if the US Senate actually took away the NFL's anti-trust exemption because the NFL allowed a team to move?
    The THREAT is ENOUGH. It will give the NFL pause.

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