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    Jeffery Littman

    After all of the calls for this guys head over the years what would you think if he orchestrated the sale to Pegula?
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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by BidsJr View Post
    After all of the calls for this guys head over the years what would you think if he orchestrated the sale to Pegula?
    I would think he was following Ralph's wishes.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    I would think he was following Ralph's wishes.

    Of course he was, but would you rather of had him gone 15 years ago penny pinching the team? Or dealt with the 15 years to have Ralph's trusted man do what he wished in order to get the next 30?

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    If not Littman, it would have been someone of similar ilk IMO.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    littman i think did what he was told all those year.

    if a pegula (presuming he wins), does what he did with darcy and said, "you seem to know quite a bit about the cap, but i want you to operate with a different mindset and know the restrictions are out." if he let him try to succeed with his knowledge to build a team without cash to cap etc, and see how he does, i'd be interested to see if it works out.

    however, i do not want that snakeoil salesman brandon anywhere near this team when the sale is closed. in fact, i'd like to put him in a bill sweatshirt and send him to the toronto team as a second place offer. "you didn't get the team, but you got the worst part of the team."

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    The Romans had it right.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    The Romans had it right.
    So, thumbs up or thumbs down?

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by BidsJr View Post
    After all of the calls for this guys head over the years what would you think if he orchestrated the sale to Pegula?
    You guys are a laugh riot.

    Now it's Littman.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    My opinion wouldn't change, but the reality is without a large increase in revenue or constant cash infusions by an owner this team has to be run on a cash to cap philosophy. It takes real money to pay the real expenses.
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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    It's not likely that any new owner would retain Littman.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    I don't think anybody thought they would...

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    My opinion wouldn't change, but the reality is without a large increase in revenue or constant cash infusions by an owner this team has to be run on a cash to cap philosophy. It takes real money to pay the real expenses.
    Again, it's not the money, it's what you do with it.

    Fitzpatrick: 6 years $57M
    Mario: 6 years $96M
    Merriman: 2 years $10M
    Mark Andersen: 4 years $20M
    Spencer Johnson: 5 years $17M
    Kawika Mitchell: 5 years $17M
    Dockery: 7 years $49M
    Langston Walker: 5 years $25M

    That's almost $200M for next to nothing. Mario's near $100M could have netted three impact starters.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Again, it's not the money, it's what you do with it.

    Fitzpatrick: 6 years $57M
    Mario: 6 years $96M
    Merriman: 2 years $10M
    Mark Andersen: 4 years $20M
    Spencer Johnson: 5 years $17M
    Kawika Mitchell: 5 years $17M
    Dockery: 7 years $49M
    Langston Walker: 5 years $25M

    That's almost $200M for next to nothing. Mario's near $100M could have netted three impact starters.
    Every team has contracts that have brought negative returns. So what? That has nothing to do with covering the operating expenses for the entire organization.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    None of the answers apply to my thought, would be "other".

    He appears to have been a good accountant so fulfilled his purpose as an accountant in terms of the Bills still being here.

    So I guess that's not fair given absolute choices. So I have to vote, according to the choices, "Wall of Fame". I despise Littman, evidently because Wilson couldn't find anyone to out argue him, but well, he'd evidently have a hand in keeping the Bills in Buffalo.

    Wouldn't have if we fired him 15 years ago.

    I enjoyed some football those 15 years of doom, 1 minute of possibility is better than 1 minute of none, so....

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    **** Littman!
    **** Brandon!
    **** Quinn and Regier!
    **** Gregg Williams and his bullhorn!
    And **** Bonjovi!

    Thanks guys...I needed that.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    **** John Y Brown too!

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    littman i think did what he was told all those year.

    if a pegula (presuming he wins), does what he did with darcy and said, "you seem to know quite a bit about the cap, but i want you to operate with a different mindset and know the restrictions are out." if he let him try to succeed with his knowledge to build a team without cash to cap etc, and see how he does, i'd be interested to see if it works out.

    however, i do not want that snakeoil salesman brandon anywhere near this team when the sale is closed. in fact, i'd like to put him in a bill sweatshirt and send him to the toronto team as a second place offer. "you didn't get the team, but you got the worst part of the team."
    I disagree. I had the same thought about Darcy Reiger: "let's see how he does with Pegula's money and without Golisano's restrictions." Turns out Darcy was part of the problem and he flopped.

    I want to see Pegula come in with a scorched earth policy. Everyone with blood on their hands for the debacle of the last 14 years is OUT. Brandon, Littman and Overdorf should be first on the chopping block. Unless the team completely tanks this year, I'd give Whaley and Marrone one more year because it takes about 3 years to rebuild if it's done right. But everyone above Whaley needs to be axed.

    They've tried blows to the body and occasionally hacking an appendage to no avail. Time to cut off the head.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Look I dont get the hate towards Brandon.

    he has increased ticket purchases in other areas and increased their footprint.

    He approved the Whaley hire and Doug Marrone hire and if the two Dougs get this team to the playoffs he does deserve some credit.

    He gets the blame for the Jauron years but levy was the one that wanted Jauron.

    I guess my point is this, he seems to be a good business man and has stepped back from football operations and has empowered the people that are in those chairs to do what they need to do and holds them accountable.

    I do not have a problem with this.

    As long as he is not deciding draft picks or free agents or who to sign/resign then keep him.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    Quote Originally Posted by DesertFox24 View Post
    Look I dont get the hate towards Brandon.

    he has increased ticket purchases in other areas and increased their footprint.

    He approved the Whaley hire and Doug Marrone hire and if the two Dougs get this team to the playoffs he does deserve some credit.

    He gets the blame for the Jauron years but levy was the one that wanted Jauron.

    I guess my point is this, he seems to be a good business man and has stepped back from football operations and has empowered the people that are in those chairs to do what they need to do and holds them accountable.

    I do not have a problem with this.

    As long as he is not deciding draft picks or free agents or who to sign/resign then keep him.
    Russ is Ralph.

    He runs the team exactly how Ralph did: with the bottom dollar driving every decision. Yes, he's a great businessman if making money is the only goal. But football teams also have the goal of winning.

    Brandon said he stepped back from football operations: how do we know that's true? How do we know he won't butt in again the second a football decision costs too much?

    You can't do the same thing over and over again and expect different results, and we've seen the results that Brandon gets.

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    Re: Jeffery Littman

    He's an idiot who doesn't deserve to even run the gift shop anymore.

    I hope he falls into his deep fryer.

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