A few random thoughts & opinions...

[Fletch]

True and that is a bit disheartening. However we are driving, converting 3rd downs, and there is a clear showing of improvement. Just not in the red zone, yet

See my two posts above.

[Mr. Miyagi]

- THis has nothing to do w/ anything, but my wife re-upped our NFL Sunday Ticket again!! Every Sunday here its Bills, Wings, Anger or Joy (win or loss), then nap!!

Good post, but this line is my favorite. Especially the nap part.

[Fletch]

Good post, but this line is my favorite. Especially the nap part.

LOL

The urge to nap usually takes affect after the surge in aggravation in the 2nd quarter. Then there's halftime where we have no choice but to settle down, then once the emotions have subsided, acceptance kicks in and the urge for a serene nap kicks in.

[gebobs]

I hope chandler can consistently kick 53.7 yd fgs. Our average yds per drive is 36.3 add the 20 touchback and thats what he will be facing on average.

Heck, if Chandler can kick a 53-yarder, how far out do you think Carpenter can go?

Winning!

[elltrain22]

LOL

The urge to nap usually takes affect after the surge in aggravation in the 2nd quarter. Then there's halftime where we have no choice but to settle down, then once the emotions have subsided, acceptance kicks in and the urge for a serene nap kicks in.

Our opener vs the Jets last year was terrible. Great scence, great food/snacks/beer, great day to watch, and so much excitement… What happened, it was over after 2 quarters, I started my nap during halftime.

[Mr. Miyagi]

LOL

The urge to nap usually takes affect after the surge in aggravation in the 2nd quarter.

Or after 7 beers.

[kishoph]

I hope chandler can consistently kick 53.7 yd fgs. Our average yds per drive is 36.3 add the 20 touchback and thats what he will be facing on average.

Well considering 36.3 yds. per drive would of been ranked the 4th highest in the league last year, that's not too bad. If you're gonna bash the team, at least know what the **** you're talking about (including the kickers name).

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/sta...vestatsoff2013

[Dr. Who]

You sure about that?

Did you look at Manuel's 3rd-down-conversion % for last season?

47.5%, 5.15 ypa, 2 TDs, 2 INTs, 61.4 rating.

Jason Campbell was better at 57.9%, 6.72, 81.6 rating, 2 TDs, 1 INT

Geno Smith was better at 56.3%, 7.58 ypa, 77.7 rating, 5 TDs, 5 INTs

Manuel was one of the worst 3rd-down QBs in the league last season.

Against Pittsburgh this preseason he went 5 for 8 on 3rds, but every drive stalled on a Manuel incompletion on 3rd, an interception, or his failing to convert.

He was 2-for-4 on 3rds against Carolina, two of his three drives stalling with the ball in his hands.

He was 0-for-2 against the Giants with both drives stalling on his incompletions.

Yeah, he's going by the small sample of the pre-season and the ridiculous assumption that young qbs can improve. Everyone knows third down was a massive problem last year.

[better days]

Yeah, he's going by the small sample of the pre-season and the ridiculous assumption that young qbs can improve. Everyone knows third down was a massive problem last year.

And EJ is so terrible that an improved OL & added weapons on offense will do nothing to help him convert those 3rd downs this year either.

[gebobs]

Well considering 36.3 yds. per drive would of been ranked the 4th highest in the league last year, that's not too bad.

For the 10 drives this year, I get an average of 38.7 yards, 8.3 plays, 2.1 first downs, 3:37 TOP and 2.1 points (if you count the three drives where they probably would have kicked instead of gone for it in normal circumstances).

There's a lot of good you can take from that, even though it's just 10 drives:
* no 3 and outs (100% DSR...you can't beat that, 8.3 plays per drive compared to 5.6 in '13)
* excellent possession (3:37 TOP compared to 2:12 in '13)
* excellent yardage (38.7 compared to 26.7 ypd in '13)
* pretty good points (2.10 compared to 1.57 in '13)
* just one turnover (0.100 turnover per drive compared to 0.126 last year)

On the other hand...
* no td's
* red zone suckitude

At this point, I'd have to say I'm a bit surprised and guardedly optimistic.

[DynaPaul]

LOL

The urge to nap usually takes affect after the surge in aggravation in the 2nd quarter. Then there's halftime where we have no choice but to settle down, then once the emotions have subsided, acceptance kicks in and the urge for a serene nap kicks in.

That was every NFL Sunday for me for about 5 years until my son was born. (He's 3.) Now I just go do something with him when the game gets horrible because I'd rather see him happy than pulling my hair out in front of him.

[gebobs]

At this point, I'd have to say I'm a bit surprised and guardedly optimistic.

OK...the Tampa game is my fault for being optimistic. Updated with the TB drives, including the two against their second stringers...

Total drives: 16
DSR: 84.2% *
Plays: 6.9
Yards: 29.9
Pts: 1.84 **
First downs: 1.63
TOP: 2:43

* %drives with at least one first down or TD
** includes three drives they would normally have kicked fg