Results 1 to 19 of 19

Thread: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

  1. #1
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    CheektaVegas, NY
    Posts
    16,206
    Thanks
    12,528
    Thanked 3,276 Times in 2,327 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    CJ Spiller is an explosive runner, especially when he gets a head of steam with a running start.

    Many have criticized the Bills coaching staff for putting Spiller in such a position, mostly due to injury concerns.

    When is the last time you saw a return man for the Buffalo Bill's get injured on a kickoff return?

    I can't recall. Was Terrence McGee ever injured on a kickoff return?

    OJ Simpson blew out his knee returning a kickoff, but that was a very long time ago.

    When is the last time you saw an NFL kickoff return man get completely annihilated and injured returning a kick?

    Spiller's kickoff return against Pittsburgh was the kind of play that can be the difference between a win or a loss.

  2. #2
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    85,588
    Thanks
    30,423
    Thanked 30,467 Times in 17,375 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    243

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Might as well, although he doesn't have that extra gear that really good returners do.
    YardRat Wall of Fame
    #56 DARRYL TALLEY
    #29 DERRICK BURROUGHS#22 FRED JACKSON #95 KYLE WILLIAMS

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Location
    CheektaVegas, NY
    Posts
    16,206
    Thanks
    12,528
    Thanked 3,276 Times in 2,327 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Might as well, although he doesn't have that extra gear that really good returners do.
    Whutf? Are you high?

  4. #4
    Skoobasaurus-Rex Skooby's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2011
    Location
    Naples FL
    Posts
    22,262
    Thanks
    14,907
    Thanked 5,214 Times in 3,683 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    63

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Might as well, although he doesn't have that extra gear that really good returners do.
    Lets ask JBJ, the all wise business master about this. JK

    Seriously, Spiller is a rocket so what are you saying?

  5. #5
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    22,028
    Thanks
    10,000
    Thanked 3,698 Times in 2,473 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    62

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    I thought TJ Graham looked pretty good returning punts as well, maybe that is how he makes the team.

  6. #6
    Registered User Crisis's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2004
    Posts
    12,738
    Thanks
    511
    Thanked 2,428 Times in 1,119 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    54

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Might as well, although he doesn't have that extra gear that really good returners do.
    His contract must be up soon because YardRat is already finding a nonsensical way to put him down. There's plenty of things to criticize him on, his speed is not one.

    The guys runs a 4.27.... yeah, no extra gear there!
    Last edited by Crisis; 08-20-2014 at 12:06 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by LOSman WINS
    Vanek is Austrian not European
    Quote Originally Posted by Prov401
    Pacquiao isn't asian. He's from the philippines
    Quote Originally Posted by better days
    I will not be surprised if Tebow has more success than Peyton in the NFL.

  7. Post thanked by:

    IlluminatusUIUC (08-20-2014),jimmifli (08-20-2014)

  8. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Posts
    1,717
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 872 Times in 527 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    15

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    He had that gear in college. He had 7 kick return TDs at Clemson on 74 kicks (4 his final year). That means he took about 1 out of 10 back for a score.

  9. #8
    2020-2023 AFC East Champions! Historian's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2002
    Location
    Upstairs
    Posts
    60,783
    Thanks
    32,632
    Thanked 28,069 Times in 15,282 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    205

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    I think what Marrone is saying, is that nobody on this team is safe.

    Everyone is going to have to take on additional responsibilities.

  10. Post thanked by:

    Night Train (08-20-2014)

  11. #9
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Aug 2007
    Posts
    1,288
    Thanks
    198
    Thanked 512 Times in 315 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    19

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    CJ Spiller is an explosive runner, especially when he gets a head of steam with a running start.

    Many have criticized the Bills coaching staff for putting Spiller in such a position, mostly due to injury concerns.

    When is the last time you saw a return man for the Buffalo Bill's get injured on a kickoff return?




    I can't recall. Was Terrence McGee ever injured on a kickoff return?

    OJ Simpson blew out his knee returning a kickoff, but that was a very long time ago.

    When is the last time you saw an NFL kickoff return man get completely annihilated and injured returning a kick?

    Spiller's kickoff return against Pittsburgh was the kind of play that can be the difference between a win or a loss.


    I like it too but not in preseason

  12. #10
    Havin' a ball ... rollin' to the bottom Homegrown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    Down by the River
    Posts
    2,774
    Thanks
    1,773
    Thanked 2,029 Times in 1,131 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    22

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    C J returning kickoffs is fitting....The player the Bill's coaches 'shun' gets to touch the ball on the play the league is intend on eliminating.

  13. #11
    Pinkerton's son Pinkerton Security's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2006
    Location
    Clifton Park, NY
    Posts
    6,003
    Thanks
    593
    Thanked 959 Times in 522 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    33

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    Whutf? Are you high?
    You must be high - lets take a guy who a lot of people on this board say is too frail to carry a full workload, and put him back returning kicks where people can take full speed shots at him!

    I'm fine with it in certain spots, but certainly not all the time - he's too valuable. We have plenty of other guys who are good at returning kicks.

  14. #12
    Registered User Forward_Lateral's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Location
    The Great White North
    Posts
    29,727
    Thanks
    183
    Thanked 8,009 Times in 4,235 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    118

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    I think it's stupid. There are plenty of guys on the roster that can do it. Why put one of your most valued assets in an unnecessary position?

  15. Post thanked by:

    Pinkerton Security (08-20-2014)

  16. #13
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    15,084
    Thanks
    685
    Thanked 3,092 Times in 2,341 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    52

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by NaturalBornSpiller View Post

    I'm fine with it in certain spots, but certainly not all the time - he's too valuable. We have plenty of other guys who are good at returning kicks.
    Like others mentioned, that return he did was just a possible showcase - to see if somebody would call up and offer a 1st. Not likely, and not advisable IMO...if he gets traded, they would have to find another rb to give'em 200+ decent carries. Good luck with that.
    Fiat justitia ruat caelum. Noli timere. Laus Deo.

  17. #14
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2009
    Location
    In all black, just outside your window.
    Posts
    820
    Thanks
    4
    Thanked 134 Times in 79 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    16

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Spiller doesn't have that extra gear.... because he is always in that gear.

  18. #15
    Registered User
    Join Date
    May 2007
    Posts
    3,166
    Thanks
    787
    Thanked 527 Times in 417 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    CJ Spiller is an explosive runner, especially when he gets a head of steam with a running start.

    Spiller's kickoff return against Pittsburgh was the kind of play that can be the difference between a win or a loss.
    Did you bother to look at his history returning kicks in the NFL? Sure doesn't seem so.

    50 KRs and a very average, worse than our other returners, 23.1 ypr. Only 1 TD on those 50. Hardly worth putting him on KRs.

    His PRs were better, 12.1 although no TDs, but most of that was from his rookie season. He had a slightly above average 9.8 in 2011.

    Spiller's skills at Clemson, largely based on speed and Reggie Bush like moves, have simply not translated to the NFL. Neither did Bush's.

  19. #16
    Buffalo Bills Fan
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Posts
    15,084
    Thanks
    685
    Thanked 3,092 Times in 2,341 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    52

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    This idea came from one of our posters, not the Bills.

  20. #17
    Retired - On Several Levels Night Train's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    The Last Depot
    Posts
    33,117
    Thanks
    9,387
    Thanked 14,240 Times in 7,618 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    126

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    It's rare anyone can bring it out.

    Goodwin is the 5th WR... with the most speed on the team... and should be the choice if he can stay healthy.

  21. #18
    Well, lookie here... YardRat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    A hole in your wall.
    Posts
    85,588
    Thanks
    30,423
    Thanked 30,467 Times in 17,375 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    243

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    Whutf? Are you high?
    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    Lets ask JBJ, the all wise business master about this. JK

    Seriously, Spiller is a rocket so what are you saying?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crisis View Post
    His contract must be up soon because YardRat is already finding a nonsensical way to put him down. There's plenty of things to criticize him on, his speed is not one.

    The guys runs a 4.27.... yeah, no extra gear there!
    Spiller is world-sprinter fast, I'm not disputing that...but, he doesn't have that explosive top-end burst that good returners have, and use, to blow by guys once they get into a somewhat open field. If he does, he certainly hasn't shown it yet at this level, and it's not like he's been lacking for opportunities.

    As for his contract, it depends on what kind of money he's looking for. Thus far in his career, he certainly doesn't qualify as elite in any phase of his game, except for a perception of potential.

  22. #19
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    49
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 13 Times in 9 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: I Like The Idea of Having CJ Spiller Returning Kicks

    This is ridiculous. He should be in a break in case of playoffs on the line type of deal.

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •