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    WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM,NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Well, I can tell you where the new Stadium will go....wherever Terry Pegula wants it to go.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    The state commission will, of course, come up with a list of sites that require the least amount of investment by the state. Don't be surprised if the current location is deemed the best as a recommendation.
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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    The study also did not consider any potential sites in Ontario, a no-brainer for a New York State-funded project in a year when Cuomo is up for re-election.
    That part gave me a chuckle ...

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    The state commission will, of course, come up with a list of sites that require the least amount of investment by the state. Don't be surprised if the current location is deemed the best as a recommendation.
    The parking lot across the street from the current stadium, if a new one is built. Then the current Ralph becomes a new parking lot.

    Or, just upgrade the current one. They have the infrastructure, parking and tailgating that works for everyone.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Perry Street Projects.

    I hear it's a done deal.

    With heavy involvement from Delaware North.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    As if there was any question that Niagara Falls had a chance. Trying to cram that many cars into the corner of the state where there are no major highways or entry/exit routes was a silly notion anyway, as bad as putting it in Canada and expecting WNY-ers to travel.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    I can't envision any way that a new owner (Pegula) would not basically demand a new stadium on land that he can acquire (or may already have) and not lease from the County.
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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    The state is setting themselves up for negotiations, and this study will give them more rationale for playing a little hardball. Smart, pro-active move by them, actually.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    I can't envision any way that a new owner (Pegula) would not basically demand a new stadium on land that he can acquire (or may already have) and not lease from the County.
    I wonder what that would reduce the cost of a new stadium by. Presumably that land cost is a part of the total cost of the stadium. Not really sure it's all that sizeable though. I mean what, even if land sells for $1M/acre, which I'm sure it doesn't there, we're not talking about all that much in the grand scheme of things, a few percent of the overall cost.

    I just wish they'd announce Pegula the winning bidder and let's move on already.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    The state is setting themselves up for negotiations, and this study will give them more rationale for playing a little hardball. Smart, pro-active move by them, actually.
    You know it was a surprisingly quick, efficient, forward-looking move by the State in this case. Saves everyone time, and gives the new owner options tacitly endorsed by the State, while giving the State a solid bird's eye view of the best options available to a new Owner.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    More than enough. They would demolish the projects and buy up the land around them, of which there's plenty, mostly vacant. I posted an aerial map about 3 months ago. I'll see if I can find it.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    Here's a cut and paste. I think I may have dropped Ralph II on the Casino, but, as you can see, there's also Father Conway Park due South and more projects in the non-hilighted areas. Also plenty of Thruway access with a minimum of infrastructure.

    It would put all three Buffalo stadiums within walking distance of each other and would create year round events in the "Stadium District", making it far more attractive for development, which would build on the great progress already begun in Canalside.

    I also had a conversation with a Delaware North employee this week who strongly believes that Jacobs will be involved with financing.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Please not the Waterfront. Why in the name of Jove would you do that? Reclaim it and make it greenspace. Put the stadium somewhere else.
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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    Here's a cut and paste. I think I may have dropped Ralph II on the Casino, but, as you can see, there's also Father Conway Park due South and more projects in the non-hilighted areas. Also plenty of Thruway access with a minimum of infrastructure.

    It would put all three Buffalo stadiums within walking distance of each other and would create year round events in the "Stadium District", making it far more attractive for development, which would build on the great progress already begun in Canalside.

    I also had a conversation with a Delaware North employee this week who strongly believes that Jacobs will be involved with financing.
    At your earlier post I attempted hand drawing the stadium over the map in windows paint and it again came out like a child's drawing, so yours came out much better and I have to give credit where credit is due.

    Coincidentally, I had a conversation with a Delaware North employee as well earlier today, but the dialogue centered more on compensation for squeegee related maintenance on his vehicle at an intersection so I have nothing to add regarding Jacobs' intent because it wasn't Jacobs who always throws me a few bucks and a sandwich coupon.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    I think I may have dropped Ralph II on the Casino
    Well, the plan has that going for it. I'm on board.

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by gebobs View Post
    Please not the Waterfront. Why in the name of Jove would you do that? Reclaim it and make it greenspace. Put the stadium somewhere else.
    Greenspace? Isn't that a fancy way of saying, "empty land?"

    Isn't that what already exists?

    "Please not the Waterfront."

    Why not? If a new stadium was built on the, 'greenspace,' and condos were built around it on the Lake, as they constantly do in Toronto....wouldn't that be of greater benefit to Buffalo than empty land?

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    What about the people in the projects?

    Can we eat them or sell their flesh?

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    Re: WATERFRONT STADIUM & NIAGARA FALLS OUT FOR NEW LOCATIONS FOR NEW STADIUM

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    What about the people in the projects?

    Can we eat them or sell their flesh?
    Knew some who used to live there, I don't think they'd mind going somewhere else. They are meaning to redevelop it anyway, 150 out of 414 units were unusable last year. It's not a good place to live.

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