Bills sign Kyle Orton

[GingerP]

I didn't say either of them I said both of them. As sure EJ as a starter now is not in the top 20 NFL QB but I think he has the potential to do so. Then in terms or Orton show me 12 teams that have a better backup QB in play.

I guess we see it differently. Orton is worse than 90% of the starters out there. EJ is worse than most of the backups. It is not a strong duo, because neither one is a long-term answer. I terms of EJ's "potential", I see it about the same as Losman's.

[starrymessenger]

Aside from being inconsistent with his accuracy, what are these many limitations you see in Manuel?

Things you can't teach: physical tools- EJ has those.

EJ also has leadership ability & a strong work ethic, which is the reason I think he will be successful given time.

We hear a lot about his physical tools but there are lots of non-quarterbacks who are better athletes than him and don't get banged up- one just got cut in Seattle.
EJ is big. That's it.
As for the wonderful intangibles we also hear so much about I doubt very much that his teammates have confidence in him. It's the NFL, you have to lead by example, and he can't. Make it rain or get lost.
Also everybody is different but I don't see the passion and the NASTY you know, what you saw when a batter tries to crowd the plate with Bob Gibson on the mound.
He's a nice, big young man who cannot play quarterback in this league.
But he has 10 million reasons to feel good about himself and I don't begrudge him at all.
Its the dufus who picked him (whoever that is) who should be blamed.
Bills don't know quarterbacks.
They just don't.

[CommissarSpartacus]

EJ/Orton 2014 is giving me flashbacks to JP/Kelly Holcomb 2005, except Losman had more fan support than EJ, because Losman was cute and white so more fans wanted to **** him...

[JoeMama]

EJ/Orton 2014 is giving me flashbacks to JP/Kelly Holcomb 2005, except Losman had more fan support than EJ, because Losman was cute and white so more fans wanted to **** him...

Well duh.

We rate our QBs by how big of superhunks they are.

[justasportsfan]

I'll take Orton over Kolb.

[better days]

I'll take Orton over Kolb.

Orton was the best QB available. He can win some games if/when EJ gets injured.

Great job by Whaley to sign him.

[justasportsfan]

Orton was the best QB available. He can win some games if/when EJ gets injured.

Great job by Whaley to sign him.

I'll take Orton over EJ. Orton has the arm and isn't scared to let his receivers make a play

[CommissarSpartacus]

I remember Orton outplaying JP in a pre-season game back in 2005.

People screamed that JP was awesome and Orton was a bum.

Who's laughing now?

[swiper]

I remember Orton outplaying JP in a pre-season game back in 2005.

People screamed that JP was awesome and Orton was a bum.

Who's laughing now?

Not Gaius Claudius Glaber.

[swiper]

Orton was the best QB available. He can win some games if/when EJ gets injured.

Great job by Whaley to sign him.

We can see the opinion turning like an old creaking cogwheel.

[better days]

I'll take Orton over EJ. Orton has the arm and isn't scared to let his receivers make a play

Orton is 32 years old. EJ also has an arm, he just needs to learn to let his receivers make a play, especially with the flags the refs are throwing.

[better days]

We can see the opinion turning like an old creaking cogwheel.

I have always thought Orton was a good back up.

I think he is better than Fitz, but not by much.

[justasportsfan]

Orton is 32 years old. EJ also has an arm, he just needs to learn to let his receivers make a play, especially with the flags the refs are throwing.

EJ has an arm, he just has to use it. Your arm won't mean much when your brain isn't willing. The bills have built a running game that will force teams to stack the line of scrimmage. If EJ starts throwing 5 yard bombs when team stack the LOS, I'd rather just run the ball all day.

[better days]

EJ has an arm, he just has to use it. Your arm won't mean much when your brain isn't willing. The bills have built a running game that will force teams to stack the line of scrimmage. If EJ starts throwing 5 yard bombs when team stack the LOS, I'd rather just run the ball all day.

I agree, EJ can not play like Trent Edwards, he has to trust his receivers to make a play.

[Meathead]

EJ/Orton 2014 is giving me flashbacks to JP/Kelly Holcomb 2005, except Losman had more fan support than EJ, because Losman was cute and white so more fans wanted to **** him...

why do you have to make everything about race

[stuckincincy]

why do you have to make everything about race

He's a Democrat?

[Bill Cody]

I remember Orton outplaying JP in a pre-season game back in 2005.

People screamed that JP was awesome and Orton was a bum.

Who's laughing now?

What does this even mean?

[swiper]

I have always thought Orton was a good back up.

I think he is better than Fitz, but not by much.

Hey we agree on that much. I have called him the most under-rated QB in the NFL for a long time. Don't know how good he is at this point though.

[feldspar]

What does this even mean?

Don't worry about it.

Shiva (a.k.a Spartacus) knows nothing about the Bills except to harass people about JP Losman.

[CommissarSpartacus]

Don't worry about it.

Shiva (a.k.a Spartacus) knows nothing about the Bills except to harass people about JP Losman.

LOL!

Another bitter Losmaniac. If you guys HADN'T developed the world's biggest man-crush on Losman, we wouldn't be the leagues biggest laughing stock.

We're STILL paying for it nine years later. The whole, sad history of the last 10 years for the Bills is DIrECTLY traceable to JP Losman, or more accurately, JP Losmans FANS.

You guys ****ed up and we've ALL had to suffer because of it.

And I, for one, don't appreciate it.