A second reason I don't like this thread.
"Watkins Watch!!!"
It sounds like something the E! Channel would do.
A second reason I don't like this thread.
"Watkins Watch!!!"
It sounds like something the E! Channel would do.
BuffaloRedleg (09-16-2014)
ahahahaha
All the Whaley and Sammy Watkins hate was from people who can't see talent. It was the best move a gm has made in I don't know how long. We are 2-0 so maybe the Browns won't end up with the number 1 pick like the lemmings suggested in the offseason.
Your boy, Mike Evans, lost the game for Tampa yesterday.
trapezeus (09-16-2014)
Man, talk about losing all credibility lol
Originally Posted by BillsZone Mod
Ya, but I can't say it was really his fault. Watkins was basically rated up there with cj, aj, and aj green coming out of school. I personally see sterling Sharpe when I look at him. The more I watch, the more I think our fo is aping San Fran and Seattle in how they are building the team. Only diff is they want the playmakers to be the skill guys (and lots of them) instead of the qb.
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Above comment was wrt mike Evans losing the game, I figure hes gonna be a stud too.
Yeah, but I think part of our old absent pal Fletch's point was to get a bigger WR. Being a bigger WR did not save Mike Evans from being creamed here, unable to get up from the field-of-play so his team could kick the winning fieldgoal, which they were in the position of doing.
This is all part of the "Watkins Watch" that he himself created, mind you. Something Fletch purposely neglects this week. You bet your bottom dollar that he'll revisit this thread later, when events suit his premise. This is transparent.
This is one of the many reasons why he is a major douchebag.
Only ONE single wide receiver had more yardage than Sammy Watkins this week. ONE, and that includes everybody including his pals on other teams.
trapezeus (09-17-2014)
Per request of malvado78 in another thread, here's the season update.
Kelvin Benjamin has 8 catches for 138 yards, 17.0 avg. and a TD.
Watkins has 11 catches for 148 yards, 13.0 avg. and a TD
Evans has 9 catches for 86 yards, 9.6 avg.
Watkins cost two 1st-round picks and a 4th, including the 4th overall.
Evans was a 7th overall
Benjamin was a 28th overall.
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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------(Moderator) My name's Max Yasgur, and I approve of this post.Originally Posted by pmoon6
The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
malvado78 (09-17-2014)
so benjamin was taken 28th overall, and we should have reached for him at 9? because if we didn't we wouldn't have gotten him.
if the bills reached for a WR and he wasn't guaranteed to eb good, the devastating here would have been unmatched.
also, i wasn't for the watkins trade as i thought it was too much. but i do see the total switch in WR the bills went with and they've upgraded talent to help a QB with accuracy issues. if the bills are 8 wins or better, it will have been worth it. i am coming around to the decision. time will tell though
Just posting the data.
Everyone can come to their own conclusions.
I would strongly suggest that you wait at least 8 more weeks prior to coming to anything that resembles a firm conclusion.
No, Watkins cost ONE first round pick.
Saying he cost two is redundant.
Last edited by JoeMama; 09-17-2014 at 09:48 AM.
Geez...not this again.
Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.
Bill Cody (09-17-2014)
LOL... I am reviewing this thread and I am still laughing at "Poor man's Josh Reed."
If you want to say he "cost two 1st-round picks", then you can't also say "including the 4th overall". Your statement implies that he cost the 4th overall plus another first rounder, which is false.Watkins cost two 1st-round picks and a 4th, including the 4th overall.
But I'm sure you probably don't care about semantics when you are trying to prove your point.
"'Clean up your room.', 'Stand up straight.', 'Pick up your feet.', 'Take it like a man.', 'Be nice to your sister.', 'Don't mix beer and wine, ever.'. Oh yeah, 'Don't drive on the railroad track.'"
"Eh, Phil. That's one I happen to agree with."
Please stop. Please. I am begging you.
What do you guys expect?
Fletch thinks stats are better than wins and losses.
He thinks we didn't play enough to win vs. Bears yet, we're 2-0. He doesn't understand what 23 > 20 means.
I can't believe I got sucked into this again.
I don't like this whole WATKINZ WAAAOOOOOWTCH thing.
gebobs (09-17-2014)
The devil made you do it?
Fwiw I think i've posted one or twice in this thread prior to the above few posts.
reading most posters, no one is firm on their conclusions except you. most people are willing to accept that a losing season could very well happen. you are the one ordaining it now.
Yes, I'm firm. Watkins will never be worth two 1st-round picks much less those and a 4th.
Yes, couldn't be more firm on that.
I think the best we'll see from him is Moulds like numbers.
My point, contrary to everyone's postings, is that Whaley is a fool for giving up our future for him when he could have had Evans or Benjamin with the original pick or even traded down and landed one of the two.
Both are 6'5" and more in the mold of the better receivers like that than Watkins is.
I mean why not just give up two 1st rounders every other year to get something you could get something comparable later in the draft.
I realize that you view it differently and that you enjoy trading away our future for players like Watkins.
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