better days (09-17-2014),IlluminatusUIUC (09-19-2014),Yasgur's Farm (09-17-2014)
WC is a pretty clear troll. Not hard to simply go to nfl.com, see at least three passes where Manuel led Watkins perfectly on crossing routes including an intermediate one, plus the Chandler pass.
67% completions at 7.8 YPA, which is 11th in the NFL. It's pretty simple to see.
"Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
- Nicholas Cummings
Novacane (09-18-2014)
It's great to see another weekend where the EJ haters have to twist themselves into a pretzel to keep the hate going. Forget the missed redzone opps, look at his stats and the outcome of the game. And unless you know what routes the receivers were supposed to run on a given play, you can't pin every missed pass on EJ.
Meathead (09-19-2014),Novacane (09-18-2014),SquishDaFish (09-19-2014)
YardRat (09-19-2014)
Yeah, clear troll whatever. Show me where he ranks in red zone stats. Probably dead last. Who cares what his overall completion percentage is. That is a useless stat. It is about situational football and he has been terrible when in the red zone.
But ya, hater, troll, pretzel. Whatever you guys want to say to be dismissive when deep down you really know these are problems for him and if they aren't fixed he will be Jason Campbell or Josh Freeman soon. Second or thrid string or a perpetual free agent. That's his future if he doesn't stop ****ting his pants in the opponants territory.
"Red zone stats"? LOL!
Gilly (09-18-2014),psubills62 (09-18-2014)
One set of rules for all in the beloved community
Not in QB evaluation. Try to separate the two because we are talking about the QB, so stop crawling back to the accomplishments of other players at different positions. I know you don't want to single EJ out because it's obvious he is the worst starter on the offense and the worst starter on the team and it crushes your heart to admit that.
Be objective, not overly loyal and these things are easy to see if you aren't a bleeding crybaby homer apologist.
Wait, W-L isn't important in QB evaluation? LOL! You're losing it even more than before.
Look, we all realize you've entrenched yourself in the "EJ sucks" camp. But judging by the performances of Brady and Kaep against the same opponents, EJ is doing very well. True he hasn't needed to put the team on his shoulders, but neither has Kaep, and look how that Bears game turned out.
And another thing. If you don't know what the routes the WR's were supposed to run, and you don't, then you can't say he was "horribly inaccurate" when the ball doesn't get to the receiver.
Last edited by Goobylal; 09-19-2014 at 10:57 AM.
I've always said Kaepernick is a joke and is a wide receiver playing quarterback. Do a forum search on Kaepernick if you want, I crush him in every thread. I'm an equal opportunity crusher and my opinions usually get a lot of heat in the moment, but as time goes on I'm right more often than not.
W-L is a team stat, or do you want to give loads of credit to Dilfer? Depending on the structure of the team, W-L is no more important to a quarterback than it is to an MLB pitcher.
For Christ sake, let it die... Why are you so compelled to pummel this subject?
SquishDaFish (09-19-2014)