On the plus side...

[JoeMama]

Can't wait to see what Kyle Orton can do with our offensive weapons.

EJ looked completely brain dead out there. An incompletion for a safety. Almost got M. Goodwin killed. Can't hit Watkins when he's wide open in the first half.

Fingers crossed EJ gets benched and soon. I don't want to root for a knee injury but who cares, it will happen soon enough.

I'm one of the guys who did his best to cut EJ some slack and I was completely wrong to give him a fair shake. He's not only inaccurate to a painful fault, he's also stupid. Poor decision making all day. He's worse than Trent Edwards and JP Losman combined.

At least Edwards could check down and Losman could hit a deep ball. Manuel can't do either. He's dead weight out there.

[Novacane]

I don't get the Kyle Orton love

[JoeMama]

I don't get the Kyle Orton love

All you need to know is that it's easier to understand than EJ love.

[Mr. Pink]

Barring an epic collapse now or EJ injury, you won't see Orton this year.

[TacklingDummy]

Barring an epic collapse now or EJ injury, you won't see Orton this year.

Goodbye Doug then.

[imbondz]

I like that EJ doesn't turn it over and throw INTs. It's one of the reason we've been in the past 3 games.

[Crisis]

Some of you guys are really deluded with how good Orton actually is. It's like clamoring for Kelly Holcomb.

[JoeMama]

I couldn't disagree more.I was pleased with EJ today.You don't want to pull him now and destroy his confidence.

I don't care about his pussy confidence. I care about getting the ball to receivers.

[WagonCircler]

Can't wait to see what Kyle Orton can do with our offensive weapons.

EJ looked completely brain dead out there. An incompletion for a safety. Almost got M. Goodwin killed. Can't hit Watkins when he's wide open in the first half.

Fingers crossed EJ gets benched and soon. I don't want to root for a knee injury but who cares, it will happen soon enough.

I'm one of the guys who did his best to cut EJ some slack and I was completely wrong to give him a fair shake. He's not only inaccurate to a painful fault, he's also stupid. Poor decision making all day. He's worse than Trent Edwards and JP Losman combined.

At least Edwards could check down and Losman could hit a deep ball. Manuel can't do either. He's dead weight out there.

I knew you'd come around, Joe.

[JoeMama]

Some of you guys are really deluded with how good Orton actually is. It's like clamoring for Kelly Holcomb.

Once Orton is out there and playing better than Manuel, you'll understand.

[Crisis]

More like more of the same but with an older version of what we have.

[WagonCircler]

Some of you guys are really deluded with how good Orton actually is. It's like clamoring for Kelly Holcomb.

I hated Kelly Holcomb.

But I'd take the Kelly Holcomb we had in a heartbeat over EJ Manuel.

[TacklingDummy]

I like that EJ doesn't turn it over and throw INTs. It's one of the reason we've been in the past 3 games.

The problem with that is he only throws 2 yard passes and when the receiver is open by a mile. Then on the long passes they are usually thrown high. He needs to hit the receivers in stride and needs to be able to anticipate when the receiver is about to be open.

Also leads to unnecessary sacks and safeties.

[coastal]

His performance okay was completely dysfunctional.

If they don't sit him soon, they will lose the team.

[BOBM253]

I couldn't disagree more.I was pleased with EJ today.You don't want to pull him now and destroy his confidence.

Though I disagree with this sentiment, I do believe the Bills coaches believe this and are coddling and protecting him instead of demanding better play or be benched.

[ckg927]

I'll call it right now:

The first game Orton loses when he starts, this board will light up with 10 variations of "Bench Kyle" threads.

[Novacane]

Though I disagree with this sentiment, I do believe the Bills coaches believe this and are coddling and protecting him instead of demanding better play or be benched.

I sure hope you're wrong. If they feel he needs to be coddled then they should already know he's a bust. He'll never amount to anything if he can't take the heat that comes with being an NFL QB.

[Mace]

Some of you guys are really deluded with how good Orton actually is. It's like clamoring for Kelly Holcomb.

Really can't agree with that at all, Holcomb played half as many career games and the feeble return on his rag arm decreased over time where Orton's increase with a stronger arm, tells you he learned and grew.

I'm not saying Orton is Peyton Manning, but Derek Anderson & Austin Davis win games nowadays. It's not time to bench Manuel for Orton, but Orton is certainly not Holcomb.

[casdhf]

Anyone who has their doubts about Orton obviously did not catch his mustache today. That dude is a baller.

[The Jokeman]

Some of you guys are really deluded with how good Orton actually is. It's like clamoring for Kelly Holcomb.

Everyone knows the best QB on any team is the backup QB. I'll admit it as an EJ fan I hated seeing him play as bad as he did today but watching guys like Tannehill, Fitzpatrick,Bridgewater, Carr make me feel a little better.