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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by imbondz View Post
    I don't know how Vegas or betting works, but are they basically saying the 1-7 Jets are better than us?
    Vegas is saying that betters think the Jets at home are better than the Bills by 3 points.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    So outside of us Bills fan, the country views us no better than a 1-7 team. Worse than actually. lol.
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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    I don't think it is quite that easy.

    The Seahawks should have dominated the Rams yesterday. The Patriots should have dominated Miami earlier this year. The Browns should have stomped Jacksonville yesterday.

    The league is pretty damn close. Really, the only sure thing game I see on the rest of the schedule is Denver. (and the Raiders are probably close to one as well)

    Other than that? All games can reasonably go either way
    Exactly.
    All the hand-wringing. The prognosticating. The whining, the grumbling.
    And yet: we're almost halfway through the season, a game back from a first round bye.

    Face it: teams lose games. And when they lose, they won't look good. Teams win games, and not every win is going to look amazing. The Giants won the Super Bowl at 9-7.

    The time to b!tch is over--that season runs from the day we lose our 8th game to eliminate us from the playoffs, til opening week 2015. But right now? Just enjoy the ride man... just enjoy the ride.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    The Jets play decent against the Pats, which they always seem to do, and all of a sudden everyone is blowing their load over them.

    I'm taking Buffalo this week especially +3 are you kidding me. They aren't great but they are certainly a better team. The only place the Jets are better basically is coaching.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by imbondz View Post
    So outside of us Bills fan, the country views us no better than a 1-7 team. Worse than actually. lol.
    Well, the Jets have a lot of fans, the Jets losses were to good teams & the Jets have had extra time off before this game having played on Thursday last week.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    There's three games on the schedule they don't have a snowballs chance in hell at winning. Green Bay, New England and Denver.

    The rest of them are all winnable games.

    How is Green Bay not winnable?
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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by imbondz View Post
    I don't know how Vegas or betting works, but are they basically saying the 1-7 Jets are better than us?
    First and foremost, remember: Vegas is not in the business of making predictions, they are in the business of making money.

    Here's how it works: Picture the scales that lady justice holds, weighed down on either side. Vegas wants those scales to be as equal as possible--the "line" is the needle in the middle that balances the money between the JETS plate, and the BILLS plate. The higher the line in favor of one team, the more people are going to bet for the other team.

    As those bets come in for one team vs the other, the line moves. So if there's a dollar on the Jets to win, and a dollar on the Bills to win, and the Bills win, then someone who bet on the Bills might make 1.75 cents (the payout depends on the moneyline, an entirely different conversation). But the 25 cents that doesn't go to the winning bettor is kept by Vegas.

    So, as you can see, Vegas is PRIMARILY interested in having money go equally to both sides. The betting public determines the line. The opening lines are what Vegas is predicting, but that could move as early as tonight. And it will, probably closer to even by the time the week is over.

    GO BILLS!

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyGold View Post
    First and foremost, remember: Vegas is not in the business of making predictions, they are in the business of making money.

    Here's how it works: Picture the scales that lady justice holds, weighed down on either side. Vegas wants those scales to be as equal as possible--the "line" is the needle in the middle that balances the money between the JETS plate, and the BILLS plate. The higher the line in favor of one team, the more people are going to bet for the other team.

    As those bets come in for one team vs the other, the line moves. So if there's a dollar on the Jets to win, and a dollar on the Bills to win, and the Bills win, then someone who bet on the Bills might make 1.75 cents (the payout depends on the moneyline, an entirely different conversation). But the 25 cents that doesn't go to the winning bettor is kept by Vegas.

    So, as you can see, Vegas is PRIMARILY interested in having money go equally to both sides. The betting public determines the line. The opening lines are what Vegas is predicting, but that could move as early as tonight. And it will, probably closer to even by the time the week is over.

    GO BILLS!
    Great explanation on the betting line from Vegas.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    How is Green Bay not winnable?
    Aaron Rodgers vs Buffalo Bills pass defense.

    Have you seen what he's been doing this year? He'll have 200 yards and 3 TDs at half.

    The end.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyGold View Post
    First and foremost, remember: Vegas is not in the business of making predictions, they are in the business of making money.

    Here's how it works: Picture the scales that lady justice holds, weighed down on either side. Vegas wants those scales to be as equal as possible--the "line" is the needle in the middle that balances the money between the JETS plate, and the BILLS plate. The higher the line in favor of one team, the more people are going to bet for the other team.

    As those bets come in for one team vs the other, the line moves. So if there's a dollar on the Jets to win, and a dollar on the Bills to win, and the Bills win, then someone who bet on the Bills might make 1.75 cents (the payout depends on the moneyline, an entirely different conversation). But the 25 cents that doesn't go to the winning bettor is kept by Vegas.

    So, as you can see, Vegas is PRIMARILY interested in having money go equally to both sides. The betting public determines the line. The opening lines are what Vegas is predicting, but that could move as early as tonight. And it will, probably closer to even by the time the week is over.

    GO BILLS!
    I can see the line on this game being even by game time.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Aaron Rodgers vs Buffalo Bills pass defense.

    Have you seen what he's been doing this year? He'll have 200 yards and 3 TDs at half.

    The end.

    Green Bay is 5-2 and lost to Detroit.
    they are not unbeatable.


    They also are 20th in the NFL in passing offense.

    The Bills are 19th.

    Maybe they are not as dominant as you think they are
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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
    The Jets play decent against the Pats, which they always seem to do, and all of a sudden everyone is blowing their load over them.

    I'm taking Buffalo this week especially +3 are you kidding me. They aren't great but they are certainly a better team. The only place the Jets are better basically is coaching.
    They also play decent against us. I'm not liking going into their house when they've lost 6 in a row, the current W-L records be damned.
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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Green Bay is 5-2 and lost to Detroit.
    they are not unbeatable.


    They also are 20th in the NFL in passing offense.

    The Bills are 19th.

    Maybe they are not as dominant as you think they are
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    2 of the past 3 games Green Bay has basically been done passing the football at halftime.

    Rodgers has 1700 yards 18 TDs and 1 INT on the year.

    He will shred this secondary.

    Detroit is also 5-2 in case you were unaware.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    They also play decent against us. I'm not liking going into their house when they've lost 6 in a row, the current W-L records be damned.
    Oh no doubt. Like I said, they are better than us at coaching which tends to equalize things. They are a really bad team though, so I mean whatever we'll see.

    I just get annoyed with all of this pseudo-wisdom about "we can't play like x and expect to y against z". It's just plain false.

    Fans are completely irrational, even the negative "truth telling" ones. I guarantee Jets fans think they are going to lose this week, for example. I was listening to Bill Burr's podcast after the Pats game against us and he was pissed about how bad the Patriots looked and that they didn't deserve to win. That's just the way it is, and we sure as hell have a lot of that around here.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by imbondz View Post
    So outside of us Bills fan, the country views us no better than a 1-7 team. Worse than actually. lol.
    The Jets are not really so terrible, Geno Smith amazed me last week with his game. Ryan's 4-6 hybrid, the Bills o-line is lost, I have a feeling they do the standard run-a-lot and short pass us mercilessly in their house, blitz madly, they have a vengeance game against life coming and we are not so inevitable atm. They are going to pick on McKelvin, your guess is as good as mine if he will be good McKelvin or bad McKelvin, and I think they thump us in their house because Marrone has no motivational handle on his team.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by BuffaloRedleg View Post
    That's just the way it is, and we sure as hell have a lot of that around here.
    The thing is though, they never break us of the habit, bud. They have a tendency to dork around when you expect effort. It can't be false until they make it so, and by now I think we all want them to desperately.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Pressure Geno relentlessly, and it won't even be close.

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    8-8

    at least we won't hand over a top 5 pick

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    2 of the past 3 games Green Bay has basically been done passing the football at halftime.

    Rodgers has 1700 yards 18 TDs and 1 INT on the year.

    He will shred this secondary.

    Detroit is also 5-2 in case you were unaware.
    I'm perfectly aware Detriot is 5-2

    Who did one of those 2 come against? (in case you were unaware)

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    Re: Count on a loss against the Jets, and a 7-9 season.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    I'm perfectly aware Detriot is 5-2

    Who did one of those 2 come against? (in case you were unaware)
    Having beaten the Bears in Chicago, the Lions in Detroit & DOMINATING the Dolphins, the Bills appear capable of beating any team any given Sunday as long as they play mistake free football.

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