Um I am sure packer fans never complained about Favre giving them up. Orton is not Favre but my point is if he is winning and playing solid at qb position I don't care if he makes a stupid throw. The 4th and 20 throw was impressive but that throw to hogan who was covered was impressive to me and that was when I said win or lose this game he could be our qb for a couple more yearsOriginally Posted by kscdogbillsfan1221
Are you referring to the throw that set us up on the 1 yard line? That was one of Orton's worst throws, Hogan had to contort himself in front of the DB to stop a pick.
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Gimme a break. That was a "now or never" throw. Hogan wasn't poorly covered, so the back-shoulder throw was really the only option if it was ever to be a completion.
How do you even know how they practiced a thing like that? You don't.
It was a good pass and even a better catch.
Was the OP talking about Kelly Holcomb?
C'mon. I expect better from you. Show me any one of those type throws (to the end zone at the end of the game) where the WR doesn't have to contort himself. The point is he got it close enough. EJ Manuel can't do that.
The simple fact is that Orton makes more good throws than bad throws. Something EJ Manuel will never do. It's enough to win some games. Even steal some games. So no Bills fan should be critical of him. Why? Here's why: EJ Manuel, Fitzpatrick, Trent Edwards, Kelly Holcomb, JP Losman, etc., etc., etc...
DynaPaul (10-26-2014)
What total nonsense. This type of supposition is absurd.
Orton sucks. He is one of the worst starting QB's in the league. He is slightly better than EJ was, which is understandable since Orton has 9 years of experience.
Hitching your wagon to Orton is stupid, stupid, stupid. I want him to play every game this year, and when the Bills end up with a 5-11 or 6-10 record, I can't wait to see the excuses that will be conjured up to defend Mr. Mediocrity.
I can't say how good Orton is because a) he wasn't with the team all off- or even pre-season and thus didn't get all that time to digest the playbook, practice it, and develop chemistry with the players, b) the OL as a whole is playing poorly, c) the running game is spotty at best, d) the OC is a liability, and e) he's got inexperienced WRs. I'd like to see him have a full 2015 before I pass judgment, but I believe he can opt-out next year, meaning the Bills will have a decision to make on how much they are willing to pay him, since he'll probably be looking to make bank since he's getting up there in years.
Let me add that a lot of the problems I mentioned above affecting Orton also affected EJ. And had the WRs done a better job of catching the ball and Hackett not called twice as many passing plays as running plays against the Texans, they would have won that game.
Meathead (10-26-2014)
So...I see you want to get a head start of the Orton Excuse Train.
He's in his 10th year. We know EXACTLY what he is, despite the refusal to accept the truth in Bills fantasy zone.
There is a reason that no other team wants him as their starter except Buffalo. This in a league that is DESPERATE for starting QB's.
If your goal is .500 record or less, Orton is your guy. My goal is higher
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Good article in the Buffalo News on Orton today...he enjoys politics, has been an active union rep (even here), and knows how to work the system to his advantage and isn't afraid to do it.
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BillsImpossible (10-26-2014),Mr. Pink (10-26-2014)
It's foolish to set goals about things that you have absolutely zero control over.
I think you're a little too down on Orton, though. I'm not saying it'll happen here, but QBs have seen success later in their careers after knocking around the league a bit. Rich Gannon comes to mind. It wasn't until his 12th season until he got to Oakland, his 4th team. It happens...all I'm saying.
BillsImpossible (10-26-2014),pmoon6 (10-26-2014),WagonCircler (10-26-2014)
already got a gotta be top five bills all time epic game winning drive under his belt. cant count on that happening very often but hes been generally much above expectations
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BillsImpossible (10-26-2014)
Very good article, thanks for mentioning this. Nice read before the game.
http://www.buffalonews.com/sports/bi...rrior-20141025
Yeah, if you like Orton more than Manuel, you are ipso facto, a racist.
We keepin' the black man down.
Same if you didn't vote for Obama.
WagonCircler (10-26-2014)
I was really hoping he'd get his 300 today. But I'll settle for 4 TDs and no INTs, especially with the restrictions on Orton, given his brutal OC and two injured RBs.
If you read the story in today's Buffalo News Orton is a big liberal so in this case it's ok.
pmoon6 (10-26-2014)
Rating was 142.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nfl/boxscore?gameId=400554298
jlgarsh (10-26-2014),WagonCircler (10-26-2014)
And Bills had ZERO turnovers.
If you want to look at the stats, Orton only attempted 17 passes.
He had 14 yards per attempt. That's worth mentioning, I'd say.
Like you say, 4 TDs and no INTs.
He played well.
jlgarsh (10-26-2014),WagonCircler (10-26-2014)
I'm not complaining, the guy is making the throws when he actually gets time.
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