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    Sal did break the TO signing direct from one of his sources (obviously well-placed) and IIRC was told by Whitner himself that it was OK to 'break' the news that he was signing with Cincinnati almost literally moments before the big 180 and signing with San Fran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    Thanks for the link. Have you been holding it under your belt for years?
    I told you Sparty's fascination with JP is freaky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    You do realize that three of those measures skyrocketed after the Jets game, right?

    His rating went up over 10 points, his two longest passes were in that game, and his YPA in the Jets game was twice what it was over his first three games. It was 14 vs. the Jets, 7.2 prior to that. 8.0 now.

    He also has more sacks per game than any other QB or team this season.

    Just about everyone seems to suggest that sacks are huge on D, but if that's the case then shouldn't they be equally huge for defenses that play us?

    He's on pace to come close to Bledsoe's team record for sacks allowed but it took Bledsoe 16 games, Orton's pace would achieve it in 13. Saving Orton is that he can only play 12 games. At the rate he's going he'll lead the league in sacks at the end of this season though.

    Is that relevant?
    Tom Brady's stats took a boost when he played the Jets too, should we not count his numbers for that game too? I agree there's a small concern with Orton's taking sacks but FYI Joe Flacco was the 8th most sacked QB in 2012, Russell Wilson was the 3rd most sacked QB in 2013.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bleve View Post
    If you're going to ridicule the legitimacy of someone, get your facts straight.

    He was a football coach. Not the head coach, but a coach none the less.

    Here's a link to a newspaper clipping...

    Also, it was the girls track team, not soccer.
    It was a GIRLS SOCCER team Sal Coached.

    I like Sal as I said before, So I am going to cease & desist talking about this.

    STUPID it was started about Losman in the first place.

    This is 2014. There is no need to talk about Losman any further.

    As JP said, that ship has sailed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    I had no idea... I also didn't know...I did not know that...I also didn't know...

    Did you know that?
    Yes, I did know those things, as I also knew you didn't. But that's no surprise because there seems to be a lot of things that you don't know that I do. Which is my point.

    Losmaniacs were clueless, which would have been okay if they'd just kept their mouths shut. But the other facet of Losmania besides the ignorance, the ugly one, was mean spirited hostility that had a distinct whiff of homo-erotism about it. JP was more than just another professional athlete, he was a fantasy object for the fan boys, someone they'd all love to be, so when JP was yanked they went ballistic because they were exposed as not only idiots, but closet cases as well. Real nasty *****es.

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    feldspar just got ethered tbh
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    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    STUPID it was started about Losman in the first place.

    This is 2014. There is no need to talk about Losman any further.

    As JP said, that ship has sailed.
    It's my thread and I don't remember asking former Losmaniacs for their opinions in the first place.

    So, if you want to stop talking about it, you're free to do so.

    Oh, what's that? You want everybody to stop talking about Losman? Because you find it embarrassing?

    Well, I can understand that. You should be embarrassed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    It's my thread and I don't remember asking former Losmaniacs for their opinions in the first place.

    So, if you want to stop talking about it, you're free to do so.

    Oh, what's that? You want everybody to stop talking about Losman? Because you find it embarrassing?

    Well, I can understand that. You should be embarrassed.
    You have a BAD memory. You asked me if I was a Losman fan.

    Losman is less embarrassing than Trent Edwards & his fans.

    But this is 2014. No need to talk of either of them any longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    It was a GIRLS SOCCER team Sal Coached.

    I like Sal as I said before, So I am going to cease & desist talking about this.

    STUPID it was started about Losman in the first place.

    This is 2014. There is no need to talk about Losman any further.

    As JP said, that ship has sailed.
    Seriously?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    Yes, I did know those things, as I also knew you didn't. But that's no surprise because there seems to be a lot of things that you don't know that I do. Which is my point.

    Losmaniacs were clueless, which would have been okay if they'd just kept their mouths shut. But the other facet of Losmania besides the ignorance, the ugly one, was mean spirited hostility that had a distinct whiff of homo-erotism about it. JP was more than just another professional athlete, he was a fantasy object for the fan boys, someone they'd all love to be, so when JP was yanked they went ballistic because they were exposed as not only idiots, but closet cases as well. Real nasty *****es.

    Like you.
    There you go again, and this is entirely typical of your tactics, which I alluded to before.

    You quote my sarcasm tidbits and ignore everything else. Nice job.

    My hostility is directed towards YOU, a dip**** know-it-all that likes to deliberately harass people about JP Losman, even pathetically years after the fact...you do this no matter what, if you feel like it. Yeah, have it your way...his own mom kinda thought he was a dick based on one incident. Sure. So what? Kinda sounded like she was proud of him for being so generous overall in a tough spot, but we'll just ignore that part, right? Ignore everything that's said except soundbites that you can exploit and take out of context in order to troll.

    I couldn't give two ****s about JP Losman, nor you. I told you I never thought he was a good player, yet you are still trying to get under my skin and paint a ridiculous irrelevant picture.


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    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    My hostility is directed towards YOU, a dip**** know-it-all that likes to deliberately harass people about JP Losman, even pathetically years after the fact...
    It's unfortunate that I'll never be able to punish Losmaniacs enough for what they did to my favorite football team, but that doesn't mean I can't try.

    I know you have a guilty conscience, we can all smell it.

    The stench of Losmania is a hard, hard thing to get rid of.

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    Here's a great Orton stat to get things back on track. He's the best 4th quarter qb in the NFL right now.
    1. In the fourth quarter: In terms of Total QBR, there is no better late-game quarterback in the NFL this season than Orton. His 87.9 fourth-quarter QBR is first in the NFL, as is his quarterback rating (132.5). Orton averages 9.21 yards per attempt in the fourth quarter, second only to Cincinnati's Andy Dalton. He has thrown five fourth-quarter touchdowns and hasn't been intercepted.
    http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bill...der-kyle-orton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    It's unfortunate that I'll never be able to punish Losmaniacs enough for what they did to my favorite football team, but that doesn't mean I can't try.

    I know you have a guilty conscience, we can all smell it.

    The stench of Losmania is a hard, hard thing to get rid of.
    Uh-huh.

    If you haven't gotten my message yet, I'll repeat it: you **** yourself.

    You think I'm a "Losmaniac" because I don't like you. Fine. If there is anybody that needs to be punished, it's YOU.

    Go back to rooting for the Browns, and also get some kind of perspective. I don't know if you're truly stupid or not. I just know your tactics and your general motivation, which are deplorable. If you REALLY think that Bills fans, even the true "Losmaniacs" had anything to do with his starting, then you really are stupid. Trying to punish EVERYBODY about it a decade later is just beyond ******ed.

    I hope you get over it some day. Start by getting over YOURSELF.

    Punish Bills fans for Losman...you are an idiot.
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    Now now girls, fight nice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HAMMER View Post
    Now now girls, fight nice.
    Somebody is going to be *****-slapped, and it ain't gonna be me...trust in that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    It's unfortunate that I'll never be able to punish Losmaniacs enough for what they did to my favorite football team, but that doesn't mean I can't try.f.
    OK, this is insane, even for you. Seriously. Like, mental illness level delusion.

    Fans of any QB don't "do anything" to any team. They have less than zero effect at what happens on the field.

    Blame a coach? OK. Blame a GM, an owner. A scout. But blaming fans for damage to a team, real or imagined?

    Seek help.

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    If we could somehow tie together the bloodlines of the Losmans and the Bushes, it would complete the circle with the Spin Zone quite nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WagonCircler View Post
    OK, this is insane, even for you. Seriously. Like, mental illness level delusion.

    Fans of any QB don't "do anything" to any team. They have less than zero effect at what happens on the field.

    Blame a coach? OK. Blame a GM, an owner. A scout. But blaming fans for damage to a team, real or imagined?

    Seek help.
    This is nothing new.

    He's just come right out and admitted it, finally...that he wants to punish Bills fans over Losman. Insane.
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    Originally Posted by Spartacus

    And I'll say the same thing I said last time. You're wrong about Holcomb like you were wrong about Losman and wrong about Stevie Johnson.

    You're like a lot of other semi-smart Bills fans, lucid most of the time but with a weird propensity to fall in love with players that don't deserve it to the detriment of tbhe team.



    Ok, well educate me. How did Holcomb not have less starts, a rag arm, less stats and how was Stevie Johnson a thug driving to work every day in his family van along with his co gangsta church guy David Nelson ?

    I think you're in over your head. Has nothing to do with who I am in love with or who I ever was, or who you were. Try and educate me here and I will give you concrete links to Holcomb and Orton stats, and you can man up and admit you are wrong or sissy out by ignoring them or invent a fresh conspiracy about the NFL lying about stats.

    I don't even care if you say I'm semi-smart or not because you're looking ignorant of the obvious numbers. Why do you even say this stuff ? So educate me.
    In case you missed my willingness to gain some knowledge or share some...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    In case you missed my willingness to gain some knowledge or share some...
    Oh, I didn't miss it.

    I just didn't believe it.

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