I like the trade.
I believe he's only going to get better.
I like the trade.
I believe he's only going to get better.
A great crop of wideouts this past draft for sure! Do I condone the trade of a first rounder and 4th next year to get the "projected" top receiver in the draft, you bet I do! It's the job of the QB
to get the ball to him like some of the other rookies that came out like Cook, Evens, Benjamin, Matthews etc. That hasn't happened due to poor play by our QB's and timing between Watkins and our QB's. If
you noticed last night Watkins was double teamed all night allowing the catches to be made my Robert Woods. They can't double team him all the time or our receiver on the other side having one on one will
start eating up the catches and yards like last night. Once the defense spreads themselves out this will create a bunch of opportunities for the receiver underneath! The Watkins draft will overall make the Bills
a much better and dangerous team as they were last night! Yes! Is my answer because the name of the game is winning and his addition to the Bills roster will do just that in many seen and unseen ways.
Last edited by Buffalo Billy Bison; 11-25-2014 at 01:39 PM.
11-5 in 2020 and deep into the Playoffs!
The Bills have drafted mostly busts in the first round. This time we drafted a stud. What are the odds we drafted another stud with next year's 1st if we still had it? Be honest
BillsImpossible (11-25-2014)
id NEVER trade a future 1st unless it was to land a 1000000% qb
but since watkins is here i am in full support of him and to his defense he has by far the worst qb throwing to him (maybe newton is worse then orton) from that list of rookies
TacklingDummy (11-25-2014)
I wanted Mike Evans then and I want Mike Evans now.
Mike Evans was the only WR worth trading up for.
The Bills blew it, typical Bills.
I'm not voting, but...
I'm not a fan of first round offensive skill positions to begin with, especially trading up for them, or giving up future picks, especially firsts. If one looks back at some of the pre-draft threads, probably mostly those where XEra was pimping going after Watkins, I wasn't on board with pulling the trigger. However, once the deal is done, it is what it is, and only more time will tell if the move was worth it (*cough*Biscuit?*cough*) or not (*gag*Losman*gag*).
Watkins is going to be good, no doubt about it, and he should only continue to get better. He's already 'dominant' enough to the point where defenses have to specifically game plan for him. He doesn't have to be the best of this draft class, even, to justify the move up, but he does need to bring enough to the table to have a significant impact on the team's success. Also, I give the front office credit for making a bold move to get a guy they truly believed in, regardless of the outcome.
All that being said, I really still wonder why somebody that thinks Whaley sucks and should be shown the door, specifically relative to what he's done with first round picks, is so bitter about not having one in 2015...it's not like you should have any confidence that he wouldn't just '**** that one up' too.
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Historian (11-26-2014)
Of course he'll get better, but what, Beckum, Benjamin, Evans, and the rest won't get better? They're all likely to get better. Right now Watkins doesn't appear to be better than any of the three. We'll see if he becomes better, but he'll have to become more than marginally better in order for that deal to look even competent much less like a good trade.Originally Posted by Historian
You can't find one national level talking head right that doesn't have a track record of miserable predictions now that thinks that we made a good decision on that.
http://www.billszone.com/fanzone/sho...s-haters/page3
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The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.
You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.
Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.
The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
"I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."
"We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."
"We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.
Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)
"And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley
All of the top WRs taken appear to have been studs. We could have had a stud AND our 1st rounder.
If we had our 1st we might be in a position to trade up and take Mariota. I'm sure that our next QB taken in the 1st will be in the next draft that's weak in QBs. That's how we do it.
When your team trades up to select a WR in one of the best WR draft classes in a long time, you know your FO is clueless.
Fletch (11-25-2014),TacklingDummy (11-25-2014)
'Clueless' is having a sig that was relevant seven years ago.
BillsImpossible (11-25-2014),Historian (11-26-2014)
What does this have to do with the topic?
Come on now ...
I already covered the topic in my initial post.
No doubt about it, Whaley made the right move.
The Bills gave up what will likely be a late first round draft pick in the 2015 NFL Draft.
I'd rather have Mike Evans and our 1st next year because he would have been available to the Bills at 9 if they didn't move up to draft Watkins.
Last edited by BertSquirtgum; 11-25-2014 at 06:56 PM.
Why not Evans at 4th? He's outplaying Watkins and it's not because he's got better QB play. It's also not because Vincent is double teamed constantly since Evans has been the one double-teamed for weeks. He was draped with defenders in that game against the skins and constantly got open.
Either way, I'd still take our picks back and Beckum or Benjamin. I'll predict that in three years you and everyone else will be saying the same. Of course by then you'll all be saying that you've always held that view, kinda like most posters' statements on Spiller.
Watkins was the supposed guaranteed phenom. Everybody had questions about Mike Evans. Not me. I wanted Evans since November of last year.
TacklingDummy (11-25-2014)
At the time of the draft my first thought was why not Evans instead of Watkins. But you know how things work, the draft gurus put out their stuff and the teams that aren't good use their info because they don't have a staff that is competent enough to come up with their own. Good teams think independently like that.
Evans has been a monster this season and he's been ridiculously more consistent than Watkins. He's had more yards in his worst game than Watkins has had in 7 of his 11 games.
He's on pace for over 1,300 yards and 13 TDs.
So no argument here.
I pumped Evans all before the draft. I was right again.
Was against it then and now.
WR corps should also still include Stevie..... if we really needed to move him then Beckham (stud) and A. Robinson (future stud)
TacklingDummy (11-26-2014)
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