View Poll Results: Would you rather have Watkins, or another rookie WR and our 1st and 4th rounders back

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Thread: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

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    Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Curiosity question.

    This isn't a thread about whether or not Watkins is good, he is good, no question. There are questions as to how good, particularly in comparison to his rookie peers, but this isn't even about that.

    The question is: Would you rather have Watkins, or any other rookie WR besides Evans, who wasn't available with our original 9th overall pick, and our 1st and 4th in 2015 back?

    Games Receiving
    Rk Year Age Draft Tm Lg G GS Tgt Rec Yds Y/R TD Y/G Ctch%
    1 Mike Evans 2014 21 1-7 TAM NFL 10 10 82 49 841 17.16 8 84.1 59.8
    2 Kelvin Benjamin 2014 23 1-28 CAR NFL 11 10 98 52 768 14.77 8 69.8 53.1
    3 Sammy Watkins 2014 21 1-4 BUF NFL 11 11 89 48 684 14.25 5 62.2 53.9
    4 Jordan Matthews 2014 22 2-42 PHI NFL 11 7 77 50 635 12.70 6 57.7 64.9
    5 Odell Beckham 2014 22 1-12 NYG NFL 7 6 59 41 609 14.85 5 87.0 69.5
    6 Brandin Cooks 2014 21 1-20 NOR NFL 10 7 69 53 550 10.38 3 55.0 76.8
    7 Allen Robinson 2014 21 2-61 JAX NFL 10 8 81 48 548 11.42 2 54.8 59.3
    8 Taylor Gabriel 2014 23 CLE NFL 11 1 57 30 540 18.00 1 49.1 52.6
    9 John Brown 2014 24 3-91 ARI NFL 11 3 70 37 529 14.30 5 48.1 52.9
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    The idea that you "won't settle" presumes that you have some kind of control. Delusional thinking at best for a supposed fan of a spectators' sport. Your way to deal with it is to constantly ***** and denigrate any move, any result concerning the team even if it's positive because you don't want your whittle feewings hurt again. It's a protection mechanism.

    You shroud your childish approach in a vale of pompous, intellectual garbage in an attempt to look smart and "real". You over-analyze even minute points and manipulate statistics to fit your negative view of the team. Again, to feel good about yourself and to protect from getting hurt.

    Of course, the criticisms are obviously from someone who has no understanding of the team concept or what it takes to excel at athletics.

    The true "realist" understands that they have no control of what happens on the field or behind the closed doors at One Bills' Drive, so they do the prudent thing for a spectator. They enjoy the games on Sunday with family and friends, cheer for their team and realize that it's just entertainment.
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    "I was an integral part in the drafting process of EJ Manuel," Whaley said Thursday on NFL Network's Total Access. "I was the person that handled the draft process and setting up the board."

    "We are committed. I want you to believe me when I say that," Whaley said of building around the second-year quarterback, per The Buffalo News. "I always tell you guys that I'll never say never because I don't want to paint myself in a corner, but when I do say something, I do it and I mean it and I try to fulfill it."

    "We believe the addition of Sammy is going to be instant impact, not only to our quarterback, but to what our offensive coordinator can come up with game-plan wise and how defenses attack us," Whaley said.

    Whaley on EJ Manuel: "We think we got a gem in this guy." (2:30)

    "And as Mark says, if in three years maybe he's not [our quarterback of the future], then I'll be sitting there saying 'hey guys', .... anybody got a job for me?" - Doug Whaley


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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    By the way, here are Watkins' rankings in the above table.

    Starts: 1st
    Targets: 2nd
    Receptions: 5th
    Yards: 3rd
    Yards-per-catch: 6th
    TDs: 3-way tie for 4th
    YPG: 4th
    Catch %: 6th

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    if the bills traded their first and fourth to stop fletch from posting, i'd say we got quite a steal!

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Can you imagine the uproar if the Bills stayed put and took Kelvin Benjamin?

    I'm not that impressed with him as most of his work has been done in garbage time when the Panthers are well out of games.

    Beckham Jr has surprised me, didn't think he'd have as much impact or be as good at the NFL level as he is.

    None of the guys would have stat lines much different than Watkins here though, it's not that Watkins isn't open or drops the ball frequently...the QBs seemingly don't even look his way through stretches. Last night was a huge example of this. Also, the Bills might be the only team in the NFL who don't run bubble screens, a play in which Watkins excelled at while at Clemson.

    Sure it would be great if the team had their first next year but who's to say they would have used it wisely anyway? As far as any of us know, they would have used that pick to take Melvin Gordon to replace Spiller.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Did you really need to start another one of these threads? Hindsight being 20/20 I'd of stayed pat and taken Beckham. He's the only one that's on par with Sammy talent wise IMO. I don't care what stats you post.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Mr. Pink, just wait until there is another hindsight decision to be made. Fletch will be there telling us exactly what he'd do. while he supported taking benjamin at 9 he didn't say boo about beckham until he made that sensational catch. now he's a big beckham supporter.

    It's pretty easy being fletch/very wide right because they just recall tiny bits when convenient and post stats without delving into the actual meaning of the stats

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    if the bills traded their first and fourth to stop fletch from posting, i'd say we got quite a steal!
    That's the problem with you, you keep repeating this over and over and over again. Don't you have anything else to say beside many of the obvious comments that you make?

    "Our D played great last night". Gee, really Sherlock.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    Mr. Pink, just wait until there is another hindsight decision to be made. Fletch will be there telling us exactly what he'd do. while he supported taking benjamin at 9 he didn't say boo about beckham until he made that sensational catch. now he's a big beckham supporter.

    It's pretty easy being fletch/very wide right because they just recall tiny bits when convenient and post stats without delving into the actual meaning of the stats
    That's right, I will, just as I was when I was out on an island suggesting that Spiller wasn't the same special player that many people say Watkins is.

    You're right trapezeus, I will be, except it will be more like what I wouldn't have done. I'll take my track record against this front office's track record any time.
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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    and everyone else here was on board with the FO the entire time. you are a fool.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by trapezeus View Post
    and everyone else here was on board with the FO the entire time. you are a fool.
    They were regarding Spiller.

    Who's the fool?

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    they weren't. everyone said, "he seems like an ok player, but there are a lot of needs elsewhere, we already have lynch and jackson." go pull up the actual threads. you also weren't posting here at the time as often as you do now.

    but this is also a nice piece of revisionist history on your part.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    . I'll take my track record against this front office's track record any time.
    Most of us would. If the Bills had just let this board vote on their draft picks they'd be miles ahead of where they are now.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    They were regarding Spiller.

    Who's the fool?


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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by Novacane View Post
    Most of us would. If the Bills had just let this board vote on their draft picks they'd be miles ahead of where they are now.
    You mean we wouldn't have drafted Whitner, Maybin, McGahee, Manuel,........

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Hindsight is 20-20. Surely we should've also drafted Russell Wilson instead of TJ Graham, and Brian Cushing over Aaron Maybin.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    I know this board wanted Ngata over Whitner.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    At least the Bills did not draft Ebron who many wanted the Bills to draft.

    He just SUCKS.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Quote Originally Posted by k-oneputt View Post
    I know this board wanted Ngata over Whitner.
    And Mangold over McCargo.

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    Re: Curiosity Question: Who Supports the Trade Made to Land Watkins

    Hindsight vision is always better. I supported it at the time.
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