Please just get me two guards and a RT please.
Please just get me two guards and a RT please.
sudzy (11-27-2014)
No rush, let's wait and see how he does against Browns, Packers, Patriots defenses who are good against the pass.
better days (11-27-2014),Novacane (11-27-2014)
Where else can he go? It's all about options. Here he starts, somewhere else he competes for the job. Would he take 5M and start with at chance to earn a bunch more or take 6M and compete somewhere. I can't think of any team that would take him for what he would want to make.
The Browns and Packers are pretty piss poor against the run, so I thinks it's safe to conclude (just like when Buffalo allegedly had a 'great' pass defense but was swiss cheese on the ground) that it's more an indication of teams being able to run the ball on them. I certainly wouldn't expect Orton to light up any of the three, because if he does it means we're not doing the job on the ground, or are way behind and playing catch-up. I'll take modest numbers and a win against those teams versus flashy stats by Orton and not hold it against him.
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There is no need to over complicate things. The Bills are taking a QB somewhere in their first few picks in the draft as the guy they see as the future. Ideally Orton picks up his option is the starter all of next year letting the rookie sit and learn and then at the end of the 2015 season he retires as the age of 34 and gave the Bills two great years.
If Orton wants to start his only option is here. I have a feeling that's what he wants to do so assuming we finish with a strong finish to the season (see a winning season). I think Orton sticks around and we draft a QB to pair with EJ to develop beyond him. I mentioned Chuckie Keeton in another thread as a 5th Round possibility. That said to me this offseason is about re-signing Hughes and Spikes, getting a true starter at TE (see throw money at Jordan Cameron or Julius Thomas) and starting caliber OG (or two). I'd also look to groom a successor to Fred Jackson. Guys like Javorius Allen or Jeremy Langford are targets as is Storm Woods. I'd also draft a DE or DT to add to the mix.
swiper (11-27-2014)
Orton had a good day against a MEDIOCRE Jets secondary.
Let's see how Orton does against the Browns with their good secondary & Pettine's blitzing.
If the Bills can beat the Browns, I think they can beat the Broncos.
the Browns and Broncos aren't in the same level when it comes to competition. We should beat the Browns but then again I thought we should have beaten the Texans, KC and Miami. In terms of the Broncos. It's tough as they have two WRs that are dangerous and a guy in Welker who can be a match up headache. Toss in the Peyton factor, I do like that he/they struggled against the Rams, who like the Bills have an above average defensive line.
BillsImpossible (11-28-2014)
Did nobody learn their ****ing lesson with Ryan Fitzpatrick?
Novacane (11-28-2014)
I'm not sure if he's been our best OL this year, but, he has the most potential. To coastal's point, the whole line needs an upgrade. I'm not ready to write off Richardson, yet, either. I'd love to see 2 guards and a tackle brought in. Open competition in training camp and the best 5 guys start. Up till now, Whaley has been horrible at finding talent at guard though.
He's been better than that. He played pretty well on Monday night. I agree he's fallen off some but keep in mind a lot of rookies struggle to finish out there season because of the difference in the length of the season. I don't see a good reason to replace him given how bad the other four spots have been all year long.
BillsImpossible (11-28-2014)