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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    2009 was a long time ago...Schaub has been done, guy got nothing left but injuries, sacks and INTs.

    And anyways, enough with old retreads already, I thought we would've learned that by now.
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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Luisito23 View Post
    2009 was a long time ago...Schaub has been done, guy got nothing left but injuries, sacks and INTs.

    And anyways, enough with old retreads already, I thought we would've learned that by now.
    He was #11 in the NFL just two years back.

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    If they brought Orton, EJ, a rookie and Schaub I would not hate it. To be honest Cutler just removed himself from the bills I think because of his moody bad attitude. Kaepernick is just not a passer so I say emphatically no to him as well

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Luisito23 View Post
    2009 was a long time ago...Schaub has been done, guy got nothing left but injuries, sacks and INTs.

    And anyways, enough with old retreads already, I thought we would've learned that by now.

    i agree enough with retreads but truly what other option is there. we have zero chance at any top notch qb in the draft this year. so where do we turn too?

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

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    We can financially sustain Cutler the question is what will Chicago want for him and what are the bills willing to pay. Would you send 2 seconds for him?
    Your going to laugh...but
    If I were the Bills, in order for me to take this HUGE Financial Burden I would also want picks!

    Think of it this way. The Bears have 3 options:
    1) Keep Cutler & be on hook for entire $118M & suck for next 5 years.
    2) Cut Cutler & take a $57M hit on Cap. This is a huge loss which would hold team back for a few years.
    3) Trade Cutler: this is the best option but who had enough Cap & Need that they would take him and take on the financial burden? No many or maybe no one!

    So, if Bears are set on life without Cutler, they may have to trade him for close to nothing or might even need to give up picks. In the later case, it makes taking the financial obligation on, worth it for some teams. If the Bills got a 1st & 3rd and Cutler, I would pull the trigger. It comes down to this: is giving up a 1st worth $57M?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Your going to laugh...but
    If I were the Bills, in order for me to take this HUGE Financial Burden I would also want picks!

    Think of it this way. The Bears have 3 options:
    1) Keep Cutler & be on hook for entire $118M & suck for next 5 years.
    2) Cut Cutler & take a $57M hit on Cap. This is a huge loss which would hold team back for a few years.
    3) Trade Cutler: this is the best option but who had enough Cap & Need that they would take him and take on the financial burden? No many or maybe no one!

    So, if Bears are set on life without Cutler, they may have to trade him for close to nothing or might even need to give up picks. In the later case, it makes taking the financial obligation on, worth it for some teams. If the Bills got a 1st & 3rd and Cutler, I would pull the trigger. It comes down to this: is giving up a 1st worth $57M?

    This Happens in NBA all of the Time!
    You are way, way off on the numbers and the final line suggests you are treating this like an NBA contract, which it isn't.

    There is no chance in hell (repeat: no chance in hell) the Bears will be giving picks to unload Cutler.


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    god help me for saying this but sanchez would be a MAJOR upgrade at qb for us.

    i wouldnt have an issue with sanchez starting in 2015

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    god help me for saying this but sanchez would be a MAJOR upgrade at qb for us.

    i wouldnt have an issue with sanchez starting in 2015
    Satan just grabbed his snow boots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    god help me for saying this but sanchez would be a MAJOR upgrade at qb for us.

    i wouldnt have an issue with sanchez starting in 2015
    He's done a great job leading Philly out of the playoff picture.
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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by Luisito23 View Post
    2009 was a long time ago...Schaub has been done, guy got nothing left but injuries, sacks and INTs.

    And anyways, enough with old retreads already, I thought we would've learned that by now.
    That's what always strikes me odd. We keep liking previous versions of quarterbacks that they aren't anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    He's done a great job leading Philly out of the playoff picture.
    yes it was him not the defense and so on

    comparing QB to QB not team to team

    sanchez is alot better qb then orton at this point

    im not saying hes my top choice or the lottery winner we have been looking for

    but hes a much better qb currently then mr orton

    in fact i think he was covering dez bryant last weekend and was covering desean jackson today
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    i almost forgot sanchez missed 2 fgs today too

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    Eagles offense was averaging 30+ per game before Sanchez came in, not so much since.

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    31+45+20+43+33+14+27+24=237

    29.625 a game

    ok lets say D and special teams scored like 4 tds during that time

    still sanchez is not why the eagles blew up

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    like i stated before he would be a major upgrade

    maybe we go after him maybe we dont

    all i know is we will have options better then orton come april and free agency

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by djjimkelly View Post
    god help me for saying this but sanchez would be a MAJOR upgrade at qb for us.

    i wouldnt have an issue with sanchez starting in 2015
    What 14 turnovers in 7 games is an improvement? Factor in that Philly has a somewhat better O-Line and the idea is even more ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mike View Post
    Stanton is average at best and a clear step below Orton.

    If you want the next Elay you will have to have a very poor season in the right year to be able to draft him.


    The Suck for Luck crowd was 100% Right On!!!
    Actually, Stanton is a clear and substantial upgrade from the sad sack Orton.

    According to the best and most accurate QB rating system out there, the Total QBR, Stanton is rated #14 with a 58 rating (out of 100), and Orton is a disastrous #28 with a 39.3.

    Orton sucks. His only two good games of the season were against the Jets.

    Even Cutler is rated higher than Orton at #20 with a 55. Last season, Cutler was in the top 10, rated #7 with a 66.4.

    Orton must GO!! EJ is probably not the answer either, but, at least he has a limited amount of experience and can get better. Orton is going into his 10th year, and he has NEVER shown the ability to be a constant starter in the NFL.

    The Bills need a stable, experienced competent QB to take over while they look to draft the guy that will be the long term answer.

    I would take either Stanton or Cutler in a heartbeat. With either of those QB's the Bills would be in the playoffs at this moment.

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    Re: QBs we can trade for this offseason

    Quote Originally Posted by notacon View Post
    Actually, Stanton is a clear and substantial upgrade from the sad sack Orton.

    According to the best and most accurate QB rating system out there, the Total QBR, Stanton is rated #14 with a 58 rating (out of 100), and Orton is a disastrous #28 with a 39.3.

    Orton sucks. His only two good games of the season were against the Jets.

    Even Cutler is rated higher than Orton at #20 with a 55. Last season, Cutler was in the top 10, rated #7 with a 66.4.

    Orton must GO!! EJ is probably not the answer either, but, at least he has a limited amount of experience and can get better. Orton is going into his 10th year, and he has NEVER shown the ability to be a constant starter in the NFL.

    The Bills need a stable, experienced competent QB to take over while they look to draft the guy that will be the long term answer.

    I would take either Stanton or Cutler in a heartbeat. With either of those QB's the Bills would be in the playoffs at this moment.
    Cutler's problem is he can make costly turn overs that hurt his team. Not to mention big arms are great but at the same time if you're playing a defensive keep the game close kill the clock offense like the Bills have been it's not a match for Cutler's skill set. The truth is what the Bills need is an Andy Dalton/Alex Smith/Russell Wilson type. I think Orton can be that but don't think he has the passing pieces around him. Maybe Sammy's injury is hampering him as we don't seem to be going to him as much as we did in the early season. Robert Woods is developing but at times not stepped up in the red zone. I have been saying since preseason that Chandler isn't consistent enough at the TE position. Toss in we all know how dismal our offensive line/running game has been this season. In term of Stanton, I think he's helped by Arians who is a better mind than Hackett but not sure he's skillful enough to be better than orton is. I think Bradford is but his inability to stay healthy is a major red flag to me that means if we have him we had better have an above average backup.

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