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    What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Not that this point hasn't been beaten into the ground, but this morning I put together some information that (some of) you may find useful

    We have all seen certain numbers thrown around with regards to the Bills chances of making the playoffs--10%, 7%, 1%... But what does it really mean?

    I wanted to look at the games that truly impact the Bills chances of making the playoffs, and what our rooting interest should be in each contest--but I wanted that created in such a way so as to be updated after each successive contest: for instance, the Chargers play Saturday night, the Steelers/Ravens play Sunday at 1, and then the Bengals on Monday night.

    *To note: these calculations below assume the Bills are going to win out. If they lose a game, this conversation is a moot point.

    Looking at the teams remaining in contention for the final 3 playoff spots (AFC North Champion/2 wild cards) and removing the Bills from the equation, we are left with:
    Bengals/Ravens/Steelers/Chiefs/Chargers

    Now, between those 5 teams, there are a combined 7 games that impact Buffalo's playoff lives:

    Week 16
    Chargers at 49ers/Chiefs at Steelers/Ravens at Texans/Broncos at Bengals

    Week 17
    Bengals at Steelers/Browns at Ravens/Chargers at Chiefs

    Taking THAT one step further... out of those 7 games, there a possible 128 combinations of outcomes. And yes, I went through each of them and plugged them into the ESPN playoff calculator.

    What I was left with was not nearly as bleak or as dire as the statistical prognosticators would have you believe.

    From the 128 scenarios that could play out across those 7 games, 44 result in the Bills making the playoffs (34% of scenarios).

    And just how big is the Chargers/49ers game?

    Well, when a winner of that game is determined (barring ties) there will remain only 64 scenarios by which the remaining 6 games could be played out.

    A Chargers win leaves 14 of those 64 scenarios as a way for the Bills to get into the playoffs (22%).

    A 49ers gives us 30 out of 64 possible scenarios favorable to Buffalo making the playoffs (47%).

    Think about that--a 49ers win and it becomes almost 50/50 that Buffalo will make the playoffs if they win out.

    I will post each of the permutations below: a red line indicates the Bills will not make the playoffs, a green line indicates they would be in.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Nice but do you have a day job?

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    damn i just went through and edited that so it was color coded, but the admins have specified that my post can only be edited for 10 minutes after posting.

    that was fun.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    LOL good stuff though for sure!

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    I wanted to elaborate on this before the games kick off tonight--not that the Titans/Jaguars has any bearing on our playoff chances!

    Before the Bills start Sunday at 4:25 there are 3 games to be played that will impact the Bills playoff odds:
    San Diego at San Francisco (8pm Saturday)/Baltimore at Houston(1pm)/Kansas City at Pittsburgh (1pm)

    The results of those three games can only play out 8 ways--excluding ties. Those results range from extremely advantageous to the Bills, to eliminating us from the playoff race before we even kick off. Following those 3 games (and ours) there will be 4 games remaining that impact our playoff chances--which will leave 16 possible scenarios for outcomes.

    So, in looking at the games that will be played BEFORE the Bills kick off, here are the possible outcomes, ranked in order of preference for Bills fans, and preceded by the percentage of remaining scenarios that will remain available (on Monday morning, before the Broncos/Bengals game) that results in a wild card birth for the Bills!
    I hope someone (anyone)finds this mildly interesting!!

    63% 49ers/Texans/Steelers
    63% 49ers/Texans/Chiefs
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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    This week we want SD to lose against SF. We want KC to lose against PIT. We want Cin to lose against Denver. We want Bal to lose against Hou. All seem probable except maybe Baltimore.

    If this happens and we beat Oakland, we are looking pretty good going into the final week.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Buffalogic View Post
    This week we want SD to lose against SF. We want KC to lose against PIT. We want Cin to lose against Denver. We want Bal to lose against Hou. All seem probable except maybe Baltimore.

    If this happens and we beat Oakland, we are looking pretty good going into the final week.
    This is why I started this thread!

    It is not as simple as rooting for pit--the result of the sd/sf game and the bal/hou game affects our rooting interest in the kc/pit game.

    As of right now, we're rooting for the 49ers saturday night. After that game, the possible permutations of the final 2 weeks (as it affects the Bills) will be reduced from 128 possible scenarios, to 64.

    By far and away, the most important game for the Bills this weekend is sd/sf.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    ^ Ya. I think SF pulls it out. Hope so.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    this is good i just with you would provide more detail
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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    this is good i just with you would provide more detail

    what would you like more info on?

    I would love to add to this!

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyGold View Post
    what would you like more info on?

    I would love to add to this!
    I just spent 5 minutes looking for Meatheads famous "That went over your head" picture he always posts but I can't find it.

    Great job though this is awesome I love this stuff.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyGold View Post
    I wanted to elaborate on this before the games kick off tonight--not that the Titans/Jaguars has any bearing on our playoff chances!

    Before the Bills start Sunday at 4:25 there are 3 games to be played that will impact the Bills playoff odds:
    San Diego at San Francisco (8pm Saturday)/Baltimore at Houston(1pm)/Kansas City at Pittsburgh (1pm)

    The results of those three games can only play out 8 ways--excluding ties. Those results range from extremely advantageous to the Bills, to eliminating us from the playoff race before we even kick off. Following those 3 games (and ours) there will be 4 games remaining that impact our playoff chances--which will leave 16 possible scenarios for outcomes.

    So, in looking at the games that will be played BEFORE the Bills kick off, here are the possible outcomes, ranked in order of preference for Bills fans, and preceded by the percentage of remaining scenarios that will remain available (on Monday morning, before the Broncos/Bengals game) that results in a wild card birth for the Bills!
    I hope someone (anyone)finds this mildly interesting!!

    63% 49ers/Texans/Steelers
    63% 49ers/Texans/Chiefs
    38% 49ers/Ravens/Chiefs
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    38% Chargers/Texans/Chiefs
    25% 49ers/Ravens/Steelers
    13% Chargers/Ravens/Steelers
    0% Chargers/Ravens/Chiefs
    I would take 49ers/Ravens/Steelers over any of the three preceding scenarios you have listed with 38% remaining scenarios. I think any scenario that has the Ravens losing to the Texans and Browns is unrealistic and has the least chance of happening.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Rivers is hurt. Missed his first practice in years.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed View Post
    I think any scenario that has the Ravens losing to the Texans and Browns is unrealistic and has the least chance of happening.
    The ravens are 1-5 vs teams with winning records.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    IMO the most realistic way we get in is this.

    The Steelers win out over KC and Cinci.

    The Bengals drop both games vs Denver and Pitt.

    SD drops either KC or SF.

    Bills need to beat Oak and NE, which is the most far fetched possibility of everything mentioned.

    The formula is pretty simple though.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    We need a Christmas miracle & the Ref crew scheduled to work the Bills / Pats game to get food poisoning just before the game starts.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmifli View Post
    The ravens are 1-5 vs teams with winning records.
    That would be a nice stat if the Texans and Browns had winning records, but they don't. Ravens are 8-0 against teams .500 or worse. I'll be rooting as hard as anyone for the Texans this weekend, but they'll be starting Case Keenum or Thad Lewis against a defense that's kicking butt right now. And then there's Johnny Manziel. Any way you look at it, of all the games that could help us, the Ravens losing back to back games to Keenum/Lewis and Manziel has the lowest odds of happening.

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    Re: What needs to happen for Buffalo to make the playoffs!

    Maybe we should have won another game prior to this week...

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