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    Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Now that we didn't make the playoffs again we officially accomplished nothing by starting Orton.

    Marrone can stay only if he immediately fires Hack and hires one of the best OC's in the game. If not, he's gone.
    Hack gone

    Whaley can stay

    Schwartz should stay but that cant happen

    Dear Pegula... drop big coin on Cowher and have a legit coaching staff

    Then you need to sign a G
    Sign Ron Watson's replacement
    Re-sign Hughes
    Re-sign Spikes although they won't due to the emergence of Brown and Alonso coming back
    Let Spiller leave unless he wants very reasonable money
    Draft a RB in round 2 or 3
    Draft Bryce Petty

    Be ready for a down year in 2015 until we can get a high 1st for a shot at a QB. There's no Luck in this draft anyways.
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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Now that we didn't make the playoffs again we officially accomplished nothing by starting Orton.

    Marrone can stay only if he immediately fires Hack and hires one of the best OC's in the game. If not, he's gone.
    Hack gone

    Whaley can stay

    Schwartz should stay but that cant happen

    Dear Pegula... drop big coin on Cowher and have a legit coaching staff

    Then you need to sign a G
    Sign Ron Watson's replacement
    Re-sign Hughes
    Re-sign Spikes although they won't due to the emergence of Brown and Alonso coming back
    Let Spiller leave unless he wants very reasonable money
    Draft a RB in round 2 or 3
    Draft Bryce Petty

    Be ready for a down year in 2015 until we can get a high 1st for a shot at a QB.
    Who is Ron Watson?

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

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    Who is Ron Watson?
    I was wondering about that myself.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    Who is Ron Watson?
    Chris Watsons younger brother. They screwed up the birth certificate it's Watson not Brooks.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by cookie G View Post
    I was wondering about that myself.
    Me too, but it made me laugh.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    I'm with you for most of that, but want nothing to do with Cowher. If Marrone isn't willing to re-vamp the offensive coaching staff, promote Schwartz.
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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Is he related to Chris Brooks?

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    I used to want Cowher but let's be real - he's not likely ever to come back after 7-8 years in the booth. And to be honest, he doesn't seem to be the same Cowher. You can see he's gotten softer by the lack of animation in his tv coverage (his first years were a lot more full of fire) Long/short - if he ever does decide to come back... a) he's not going to b'lo, and b) he's likely to end up like Gibbs and flame out after he realizes the game has moved on in the last 7-8 years (and why should he work that hard again, he's probably making great bank on CBS, not to mention the direct tv commercials.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    This line needs two guards and a tackle. Maybe even a LT and just slide in Glenn to guard since he's had a pretty bad year as well. Urbik, Pears, and Henderson are all garbage.
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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    We find out soon what kind of owner Pegula is going to be. At the very least Hackett better be gone.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Cynical View Post
    I used to want Cowher but let's be real - he's not likely ever to come back after 7-8 years in the booth. And to be honest, he doesn't seem to be the same Cowher. You can see he's gotten softer by the lack of animation in his tv coverage (his first years were a lot more full of fire) Long/short - if he ever does decide to come back... a) he's not going to b'lo, and b) he's likely to end up like Gibbs and flame out after he realizes the game has moved on in the last 7-8 years (and why should he work that hard again, he's probably making great bank on CBS, not to mention the direct tv commercials.
    He's got the right attitude for this team of can't-manage-to-get-out-of-our-own-ways.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Chris Watsons younger brother. They screwed up the birth certificate it's Watson not Brooks.
    Brooks is the 5th CB on the depth chart. I have no issues with him sticking around but we might already have his replacement on the bench as you're forgetting we drafted Ross Crockell this year.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Why do we also have this idiot kickoff specialist who can't even kick a decent onside kick?

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Marrone coached like a coward all season long, went out like a coward kicking the ball at midfield, afraid to try and gain a yard.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    The o-line could literally be completed scrapped and it wouldn't be any worse.

    I want a head coach who isn't scared to go for it on 4th and 1 even if they're on their own 35. A guy who'll go for 2 points once in a while just because he can. Someone who actually understands bubble screens to WRs work. And a QB who doesn't want to check it down every single pass play.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by Crisis View Post
    Why do we also have this idiot kickoff specialist who can't even kick a decent onside kick?
    Thank you! I forgot about the lack of legit suprise special teams plays and zero balls when it comes to using them.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    The o-line could literally be completed scrapped and it wouldn't be any worse.

    I want a head coach who isn't scared to go for it on 4th and 1 even if they're on their own 35. A guy who'll go for 2 points once in a while just because he can. Someone who actually understands bubble screens to WRs work. And a QB who doesn't want to check it down every single pass play.
    Glenn, Henderson, and Wood start on any other team. They're starting quality. Our G's are crap. But whats the point in drafting more when we drafted 2 just this last year? Cujo (yes he's a G long before we drafted him IMO) and Richardson. Sign Carpenter to play RG.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    Glenn, Henderson, and Wood start on any other team. Our G's are crap. But whats the point in drafting more when we drafted 2 just this last year? Cujo and Richardson. Sign Carpenter to play RG.
    Henderson is a turnstile. Glenn and Wood both regressed.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Pink View Post
    Henderson is a turnstile. Glenn and Wood both regressed.
    Henderson is a 7th round rookie and in several games was our best OL. Glenn was very very good in this game. Go back and watch. Wood is up there with Mangold IMO.

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    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    He's got the right attitude for this team of can't-manage-to-get-out-of-our-own-ways.
    The Cowher from 2006 did....not sure sure the Cowher in 2014 does. Then again, I did find this article, so as they say, never say never. Still, I don't know that I'd want him unless there were no other alternatives. 8 years is a long time away from the intensity of being a hc in the NFL.

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