Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

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  • X-Era
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
    • Feb 2005
    • 27670

    #16
    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

    Originally posted by Crisis View Post
    Why do we also have this idiot kickoff specialist who can't even kick a decent onside kick?
    Thank you! I forgot about the lack of legit suprise special teams plays and zero balls when it comes to using them.

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    • X-Era
      What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
      • Feb 2005
      • 27670

      #17
      Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
      The o-line could literally be completed scrapped and it wouldn't be any worse.

      I want a head coach who isn't scared to go for it on 4th and 1 even if they're on their own 35. A guy who'll go for 2 points once in a while just because he can. Someone who actually understands bubble screens to WRs work. And a QB who doesn't want to check it down every single pass play.
      Glenn, Henderson, and Wood start on any other team. They're starting quality. Our G's are crap. But whats the point in drafting more when we drafted 2 just this last year? Cujo (yes he's a G long before we drafted him IMO) and Richardson. Sign Carpenter to play RG.

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      • Mr. Pink
        Peterman Sucks!
        • Mar 2006
        • 35303

        #18
        Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

        Originally posted by X-Era View Post
        Glenn, Henderson, and Wood start on any other team. Our G's are crap. But whats the point in drafting more when we drafted 2 just this last year? Cujo and Richardson. Sign Carpenter to play RG.
        Henderson is a turnstile. Glenn and Wood both regressed.

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        • X-Era
          What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
          • Feb 2005
          • 27670

          #19
          Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

          Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
          Henderson is a turnstile. Glenn and Wood both regressed.
          Henderson is a 7th round rookie and in several games was our best OL. Glenn was very very good in this game. Go back and watch. Wood is up there with Mangold IMO.

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          • Mr. Cynical
            Maybe?
            • Oct 2003
            • 9766

            #20
            Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

            Originally posted by X-Era View Post
            He's got the right attitude for this team of can't-manage-to-get-out-of-our-own-ways.
            The Cowher from 2006 did....not sure sure the Cowher in 2014 does. Then again, I did find this article, so as they say, never say never. Still, I don't know that I'd want him unless there were no other alternatives. 8 years is a long time away from the intensity of being a hc in the NFL.

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            • Mr. Pink
              Peterman Sucks!
              • Mar 2006
              • 35303

              #21
              Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

              Originally posted by X-Era View Post
              Henderson is a 7th round rookie and in several games was our best OL.
              He plays like a 7th round rookie and has no business being an NFL starter.

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              • The Jokeman
                Registered User
                • Dec 2003
                • 9995

                #22
                Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                Glenn, Henderson, and Wood start on any other team. They're starting quality. Our G's are crap. But whats the point in drafting more when we drafted 2 just this last year? Cujo (yes he's a G long before we drafted him IMO) and Richardson. Sign Carpenter to play RG.
                The Bills were 2-1 when Chris Williams started at LG. I'm not saying he was great but he might have been the best G on the roster this season.

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                • X-Era
                  What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace
                  • Feb 2005
                  • 27670

                  #23
                  Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                  Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                  The Bills were 2-1 when Chris Williams started at LG. I'm not saying he was great but he might have been the best G on the roster this season.
                  Can't really weigh in on that. You could be right. Drafting any makes this past draft a waste, I'd rather sign someone.

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                  • The Jokeman
                    Registered User
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 9995

                    #24
                    Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                    Originally posted by X-Era View Post
                    Can't really weigh in on that. You could be right. Drafting any makes this past draft a waste, I'd rather sign someone.
                    The only issue with that is using up the cap space. Personally I'd hope a 2nd round pick could step in and start from the start but then again we had a higher Round 2 pick last year and most thought Kujo could step in and start. Of course OG isn't as demanding as RT.

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                    • BertSquirtgum
                      Legendary Zoner
                      • May 2009
                      • 13379

                      #25
                      Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                      Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                      He plays like a 7th round rookie and has no business being an NFL starter.
                      This post is such a stupid idiot *******.

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                      • Mr. Pink
                        Peterman Sucks!
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 35303

                        #26
                        Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                        Originally posted by BertSquirtgum View Post
                        This post is such a stupid idiot *******.


                        Much like the rest of the season Henderson was completely owned most of the day, today it was by Khalil Mack.

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                        • Novacane
                          Registered User
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 42353

                          #27
                          Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                          Originally posted by Mr. Pink View Post
                          Henderson is a turnstile. Glenn and Wood both regressed.

                          That's the disturbing thing. Good players regressed. It's got to be coaching

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                          • The Jokeman
                            Registered User
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 9995

                            #28
                            Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                            Originally posted by Novacane View Post
                            That's the disturbing thing. Good players regressed. It's got to be coaching
                            Did he regress or did teams get more film on him and learn his weaknesses? or did he have the rookie free fall that many have? Either so he played better than most 7th Round rookies would on the season.

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                            • Mr. Pink
                              Peterman Sucks!
                              • Mar 2006
                              • 35303

                              #29
                              Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                              Originally posted by The Jokeman View Post
                              Did he regress or did teams get more film on him and learn his weaknesses? or did he have the rookie free fall that many have? Either so he played better than most 7th Round rookies would on the season.
                              On regression I was speaking of Woods and Glenn.

                              No one on this o-line played particularly well this year.

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                              • paladin warrior
                                All-Pro Zoner
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 3272

                                #30
                                Re: Officially no benefit in starting Orton... Hackett should be gone now

                                Ya Bills need a new RB . Our old RB boat stinky from the submarine

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