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    Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    I don't follow college ball so take this with a grain of salt...his passes in this reel are usually a bit underthrown (receivers are reach back/slowing down slightly) Are you sure he has a big arm? Accuracy is more important by far so I'm not saying I wouldn't want him, but your comment about the strong arm seems a little generous given the footage (again, never watched him live so could be wrong)

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    I like Tenn's Justin Worley in later rounds, if healthy.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?

    He'll be there in round 4

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?
    He has run a one-read, shotgun/spread offense in college, which has led to big production. He has the size and a good arm, but projects to day 2 of the draft because of questions about running a pro-offense. Basically, he is a project with tools.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Can we just have a normal pocket-passer? All the guys that run these spread or read option type offenses eventually end up sucking in the pros.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?
    Baylor runs a true balls to the wall offense, unlike the fake balls to the wall offense Hackett was squawking about when he got here.

    Most of their TD drives are under 2 minutes. They play as fast as Oregon. They bury teams.

    They normally run 4 and 5 wide, emphasis on speed, emphasis on mismatches. But with all of that speed moving people deep, they are one of the better teams in the country running the ball, especially up the middle. They still average around 250 yds. per game rushing.

    Art Briles ran this offense with RGIII, with a guy named Nick Florence and with Bryce Petty. All 3 thrived.


    I'll take Art Briles before Petty. But I'd let him decide.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    By the 26-27-60 QB rule for drafting QB's:

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/2/1...erback-success

    http://www.baylorbears.com/sports/m-...ty_437830.html

    PASSING G ATT COMP PCT YDS LONG PASS EFFIC. TD INT YDS/G
    2010 0 0 0 -- 0 0 -- 0 0 --
    2011 5 4 3 0.750 43 25 165.3 0 0 8.6
    2012 6 10 7 0.700 97 37 184.5 1 0 16.2
    2013 13 403 250 0.620 4200 93 174.3 32 3 323.1
    2014 10 337 200 0.593 2893 89 153.0 25 5 289.3
    TOTAL 34 754 460 0.610 7233 93 164.9 58 8 212.7

    He's got the 60% completions... Doesn't have 27 starts. Can he score a 26 on the Wonderlic?

    Personally I think this is just an attempt at a measurement for success and that there is no sure fire methodology for determining success.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    I'd take Petty in a heart beat and I'm not a religious Baylor follower...there was something about RGIII that didn't feel right.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by jpdex12 View Post
    I'd take Petty in a heart beat and I'm not a religious Baylor follower...there was something about RGIII that didn't feel right.
    Can probably be had by us. The draft stock sits at 2nd - 5th by what I'm seeing.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    What type of offense did he run? Will he be there late in round 2?
    he's a read option guy who never throws a pass to a 2nd WR... it's always first target or run. he doesn't read defenses, he doesn't know how to operate in a pocket, he can't take snaps from center. Lets just throw out every QB who exclusively runs a high school style read-option passing game. they aren't NFL prospects, nor should they be considered nfl prospects
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by Thurmal View Post
    Can we just have a normal pocket-passer? All the guys that run these spread or read option type offenses eventually end up sucking in the pros.
    problem is you can only draft what is available and alot of college teams

    run either a spread or a read option offense.

    just think schools like michigan used to produce an nfl qb every 2 or 3 seasons (backup or starter level) and what have they done since they started running a non pro style offense? they produced a RB for the jags

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    I like what I've seen when I watch him play, bu there's a reason he's not in the conversation with the top guys. Mechanics seem to need work and he's never going to be a top 10 guy for arm strength, but he seems to have a chance to develop into a quality NFL QB. I agree with the OP... we should be taking a QB every year until we get it right, Ron Wolf style. If he's the best we see with where we're drafting, go for it.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by Ingtar33 View Post
    he's a read option guy who never throws a pass to a 2nd WR... it's always first target or run. he doesn't read defenses, he doesn't know how to operate in a pocket, he can't take snaps from center. Lets just throw out every QB who exclusively runs a high school style read-option passing game. they aren't NFL prospects, nor should they be considered nfl prospects
    Basically this.

    It's hard to ignore his highlight reel but that Baylor offense is so elementary its a big part of why RGIII has struggled to adjust, and why Nick Florence never got a legit shot.

    Petty has good physical traits but you're talking about a guy who needs Aaron Rodgers like time on the bench behind a good veteran QB with a great OC in order to learn how to play in the NFL more than likely. He's not the guy you draft to walk into TC and be the immediate starting QB.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    To be fair I'm not sure past Mariota and Winston there is a QB most teams would be willing to be their future on. Even then Winston has his own off the field warts and Mariota comes from a collegiate offense where he'll need time to adapt and learn how to read defenses.

    The guy the Bills need is Connor Cook from Michigan State and he's already announced he's headed back to East Lansing for his Senior season.
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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Petty has good physical traits but you're talking about a guy who needs Aaron Rodgers like time on the bench behind a good veteran QB with a great OC in order to learn how to play in the NFL more than likely. He's not the guy you draft to walk into TC and be the immediate starting QB.
    Then you draft him no higher than the 3rd round, because anyone higher they're going to call for him to be in there from game one. If there's a guy they like in the third, I'd be cool with EJ and a vet (preferably not Orton but what the hell else is there out there) for all of next year so the kid can learn the NFL style of play.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    Quote Originally Posted by Don't Panic View Post
    Then you draft him no higher than the 3rd round, because anyone higher they're going to call for him to be in there from game one. If there's a guy they like in the third, I'd be cool with EJ and a vet (preferably not Orton but what the hell else is there out there) for all of next year so the kid can learn the NFL style of play.
    He could be drafted in Round 7 and there will be lots of people calling for him to start on Day 1. Have you seen our QB play this year?

    One year isn't going to be enough imo. You're talking about a QB who runs a one read offense in a conference that has some of the slowest defenders of any of the Power 5.

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    Re: Bryce Petty - QB, Baylor

    12/20/14: WalterFootball.com knows that multiple NFL teams view Petty as a third-day prospect despite the hype from some draft pundits.

    The view of league contacts has been justified by Petty's performance in 2014. His accuracy has been inconsistent, and he's missed a lot of wide-open receivers that any NFL quarterback has to connect with.

    Petty has completed 62 percent of his passes for 3,305 yards with 26 touchdowns and six interceptions. He has three rushing touchdowns. Petty needs to show improvement in his pocket passing and accuracy.
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    I think Petty...would be a heart breaker for us

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