Does Marrone Deserve to Stay

[CommissarSpartacus]

Oh yeah I did. But it was not illegal at that time.

Is it illegal now?

[better days]

Is it illegal now?

I'm pretty sure it was made illegal sometime in the mid 70's.

[CommissarSpartacus]

I'm pretty sure it was made illegal sometime in the mid 70's.

The drug itself is illegal, but have they actually passed a law specifically making driving on LSD illegal?

How do you test for it?

[swiper]

The drug itself is illegal, but have they actually passed a law specifically making driving on LSD illegal?

How do you test for it?

An LSD drug test.

[better days]

An LSD drug test.

A little disappointed.

I was expecting to see a funny joke when I opened the link.

[swiper]

A little disappointed.

I was expecting to see a funny joke when I opened the link.

I am eating dinner and opened a bottle of red wine tonight. Have to be VERY careful posting while drinking.

Notice I'm not angry swiper right now?

[CommissarSpartacus]

An LSD drug test.

"This is perfectly applicable as home-testing kits for suspicious parents or law enforcement people."

40 years too late to save me...

[swiper]

"This is perfectly applicable as home-testing kits for suspicious parents or law enforcement people."

40 years too late to save me...

Like a thing aka a diet?

[jimmifli]

If Marrone stays, Hacket stays. No decent OC is going to come here as a lame duck.

If Schwartz gets the top job we become the best OC job available. A top defense that will return mostly intact. And a HC that comes from the defensive side of the ball meaning that the OC gets all the credit for a turnaround.

And the task isn't even hard, just make them mediocre and you're a hero.

[DraftBoy]

This is what you believe should happen or what you think will happen?

Morris is the last guy to go IMO. Marrone and Hackett shat the bed more than he did. Even Whaley has a heavy hand in the destruction of the offense.

Let's examine our defense.. who chose our best players...

KW, MW, Dareus, trade for Hughes, Bradham, Gilmore, McKelvin, Aaron Williams, Searcy, --> none of those were chosen by the Marrone/Whaley combo... Kiko, Brown were only two guys drafted by our current guys

Our D has been led entirely by two very good DC.

On the other hand our O has gone from bad to worse under Marrone, personnel has gotten worse and play calling has been shocking at best. So wondering how this current regime has brought any improvement? Our D that another GM built is the reason we have 8 wins. Our O which is supposed to be the area of expertise of our HC has been a disaster.

As an example --> Rex Ryan always has good defenses and since Payton has been in NO from day one he had a good offense. For those guys it makes sense to keep them and improve the other side of the ball.

A little of both. Morris is the last guy to go? Why would you say that? Is he or is he not the guy in charge of an OL where both Cordy Glenn and Eric Wood regressed greatly this year?

[djjimkelly]

Bet you never drove on acid, huh?

lol at this point i dont even drink i just smoke my medicanlly approved marijuana :) ...........

however lol in my younger experimental years not that im old now :) i drove on PCP (angel dust ) once, travolta in pulp fiction dont have nothing on me lol

[djjimkelly]

I am eating dinner and opened a bottle of red wine tonight. Have to be VERY careful posting while drinking.

Notice I'm not angry swiper right now?

make this happen more often or if your in canada come puff some sativa with me that will make you friendlier :)

[pmoon6]

i drove on PCP

This explains so much.

[cookie G]

If Marrone stays, Hacket stays. No decent OC is going to come here as a lame duck.

If Schwartz gets the top job we become the best OC job available. A top defense that will return mostly intact. And a HC that comes from the defensive side of the ball meaning that the OC gets all the credit for a turnaround.

And the task isn't even hard, just make them mediocre and you're a hero.

mmmhmm...Jay Gruden parlayed an average offense in Cinci into a head coaching gig in Washington.

So there's a ton of upside to it.

[DraftBoy]

Their limitations were recognised and covered by previous coaching staff and their previous QB. They didn't give up many sacks because they had a QB who rarely held the ball for more than 2 seconds.

They had a play caller who was far better at keeping a team off balance in the run game, who knew what misdirection meant, and knew how to set up a D.

As far as something not adding up...who was it that made some of these decisions on how to use people? Was it Morris or Marrone?

For instance, the move of Pears to guard.

He's not a guard, never was, never will be. He's a guy that would get bowled back by smaller DE's when he played tackle, but had one thing going for him...he could at least get in someone's way long enough for Fitz to get rid of the ball. But having the power to hold off bigger DL's is not, and never was an area of strength with him.

And yet, he was moved to guard.

Who made the call?

http://www.buffalorumblings.com/bill...at-right-guard

That really sounds like Marrone making the call. I could be wrong..I'm not in the meetings...but I have a hard time believing he'd let his OL coach overrule him in a decision like that. And he also doesn't sound like he's covering for someone else's decision.

Morris has a long track record of producing lines with a very good running game, even if you ignore the Adrian Peterson years in Minny.

Hackett...well...he has no track record...and has shown some inexcusable deficiencies in calling a running game.

You want to make Morris the scapegoat fine...

but this offense doesn't get better if the people running it are left intact.

Yes...let's look at this track record you want to throw around...

Never had an OL that allowed less than 30 sacks in a year, best running games came with backs that were top 5 in the NFL (Gore and Peterson).

Which part of this is supposed to be the impressive part again?

This offense isn't getting better until they learn how to block the person in front of them. We'll work on blocking blitzers, stunts, and twists next year. Clearly its baby steps with this OL scheme.

[djjimkelly]

This explains so much.

lol that was 20 years ago i think the effects wore off after the JP era

[BertSquirtgum]

First off, he has gotten us this close to a playoff. Something that NO coach has done in 15 years. I know almost doesn't count but are you willing to go back to 5-6 wins and another rebuilding year with a new HC?

2nd Freddie J says they like playing for him.

He deserves 1 more year just like Gailey and Jauron.

Who gives a ****? Close only counts in horseshoes and darts. He is a garbage head coach and needs to be kicked in the ass on his way out the door.

[The Jokeman]

I think the entire staff stays, except for Pat Morris.

Same goes for the Front Office.

Morris deserves the door as does Jim "does anyone know what I do?" Hostler.

[BertSquirtgum]

Marrone was a Syracuse alumni Russ Brandon hire all the way. Terrible hire then, terrible hire now. Brandon needs to be the first one fired and Marrone next. I don't think I could take another year of looking at clueless Doug on the sideline for another year. Duuuuuuuuh, why is this happening to me? Because you suck and so do all of your offensive coaches. They are all offensive.

[The Jokeman]

Marrone was a Syracuse alumni Russ Brandon hire all the way. Terrible hire then, terrible hire now. Brandon needs to be the first one fired and Marrone next. I don't think I could take another year of looking at clueless Doug on the sideline for another year.

You realize this is the first time since 2005 we won't earn a pick in the draft in the top 12?