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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    You stay loyal to the Godfather, he takes care of you.

    Loyalty is important.

    Why do you think none of Belichek's former players say anything bad about the guy?
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    Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    Kraft knows he has nothing to worry about...

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/american-football/30997068


    Deflate-gate: New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft defends side
    Super Bowl XLIX

    Date: Sunday, 1 February

    New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft has denied any wrongdoing by his team as NFL's 'deflate-gate' rumbles on.

    The Super Bowl finalists are under investigation after being found to have used under-inflated balls in their 45-7 victory over the Indianapolis Colts.

    Kraft believes "unconditionally" that the Patriots have "done nothing inappropriate" or violated NFL rules.

    He also wants the NFL to apologise if his side, who face the Seattle Seahawks in Sunday's Super Bowl, are cleared.

    Kraft went on to defend Patriots coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady, the two men at the centre of the saga.

    "I am disappointed in how this entire matter has been handled and reported upon," said Kraft.

    "I would expect and hope that the league would apologise to our entire team and in particular Bill Belichick and Tom Brady for what they have had to endure this past week."

    ...more...

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    When the Colts turned the balls over, they were within limits. 12.5 - 13.5.

    When they were tested at halftime, they were only reported as still within limits, which could be 12.5. So they could have lost a psi and still be okay.
    Are you suggesting that the balls the colts used were inflated to the max allowable so when they had a pressure reduction due to temp they were within limits... and the Pat's balls were inflated to the lower limit thus falling out of the range? (except that one magic ball) This should easily be discovered if the refs pre game had records of what the teams balls were inflated to pregame.

    If such a record is (obviously) not kept... I assume it will be from now on.

    Why teams are allowed to have posession of game balls , 12 aside , is silly. The home team should provide all 24 which the league has control of throughout.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Are you suggesting that the balls the colts used were inflated to the max allowable so when they had a pressure reduction due to temp they were within limits... and the Pat's balls were inflated to the lower limit thus falling out of the range? (except that one magic ball) This should easily be discovered if the refs pre game had records of what the teams balls were inflated to pregame.
    He's suggesting exactly that. So the Pats balls lost 2 psi while the Colts balls only lost a maximum of 1. Must have been colder on the home side of the outdoor stadium.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Why teams are allowed to have posession of game balls , 12 aside , is silly. The home team should provide all 24 which the league has control of throughout.
    That's how it used to be (except the home team had control of all 24) until 2006 when Tom Brady petitioned the league and got the rule changed. Then he threw 50 TDs in 2007, after a year of only throwing 24 TDs in 2006.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    Are you suggesting that the balls the colts used were inflated to the max allowable so when they had a pressure reduction due to temp they were within limits... and the Pat's balls were inflated to the lower limit thus falling out of the range?
    Yup.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    boo hoo

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    First Tom Brady says his feelings got hurt, now Kraft is crying for an apology. What a bunch of babies.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    im sorry that you wont find a boil free area of my ass to kiss
    One set of rules for all in the beloved community

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    Did Kraft apologize when his quarterback decided to insult the City of Buffalo?

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    LOL!

    Haters are funny and sad all at the same time.

    Bill Belichek is DE DEBBIL!

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by Spartacus View Post
    LOL!

    Haters are funny and sad all at the same time.

    Bill Belichek is DE DEBBIL!
    Who here is sad? And did anyone say anything about Belichick?

    Now you're just talking to hear yourself talk. Quit slobbin on the Pats knob, guy.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post


    That's how it used to be (except the home team had control of all 24) until 2006 when Tom Brady petitioned the league and got the rule changed. Then he threw 50 TDs in 2007, after a year of only throwing 24 TDs in 2006.
    I did not know this.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by sukie View Post
    I did not know this.
    It's actually not a bad rule if you don't abuse it. Peyton Manning was also a proponent of this rule change. He mentioned that sometimes during away games, he'd be down late in the game with one drive left and the football they would bring in would be different than the rest of the game, more slippery and what not. He hasn't been caught abusing the rule like Brady did though. There's also not a spike in his stats like Brady, and his teams fumble rate didn't drop significantly in 2007 like the Patriots did.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    What exactly has the NFL done wrong here. They received a notice from a team about the inflation of the footballs are are investigating it.

    The fans, media and Patriots (calling three press conferences to date) have blown this up but the NFL keeps on plugging along at a snails pace.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    My Fool's Gold campaign is amateur at best compared to this troll job.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    My Fool's Gold campaign is amateur at best compared to this troll job.
    Truth, but at least you kept it to one thread. That thread happened to be like 150 pages, but still.

    This guy is spreading his seed all over this forum, like he would do on Brady's back.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    The best defense is a good offense.

    At least Kraft and cronies have learned that much.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    It's actually not a bad rule if you don't abuse it. Peyton Manning was also a proponent of this rule change. He mentioned that sometimes during away games, he'd be down late in the game with one drive left and the football they would bring in would be different than the rest of the game, more slippery and what not. He hasn't been caught abusing the rule like Brady did though. There's also not a spike in his stats like Brady, and his teams fumble rate didn't drop significantly in 2007 like the Patriots did.
    The other team has to play with the new slippery ball as well. It's like with .6 on the clock and Lebron demanding a ball change.

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    Re: Ask A Scientist: Deflategate Is Trumped Up Nonsense

    I find it hard to believe that the officials are so stupid as to not understand that a ball inflated to the minimum pressure is not going to fall under spec when cooled 30 degrees. Until we find out what the test conditions were, what the actual readings were, it's anyone's guess what happened.
    Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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    Re: Robert Kraft wants an apology from the NFL

    Tom should sue for defamation.

    Pete Rose is still awaiting his apology.

    Patti
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