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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    LMAO

    Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

    Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
    Are you really quoting ESPN Sport Science as a source on this?

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    LMAO

    Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

    Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
    What about the fumble statistics?

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    Move on.
    YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

    What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    LMAO

    Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

    Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
    I wonder why wells didn't use sports science as apart of their report.

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    Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

    Sore losers.

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    Re: Brady suspension coming next week

    imho, it is almost irrelevant what the actual rule is that he/pats broke... there is a rule, he broke it, he lied and denied it, and then got caught. For that alone he should be suspended, otherwise it sets a precedent. If the nfl wants its rules to be "sort of binding", then ok, let him skate. But if they want "integrity of the shield", something we hear all the time, then he has to do the time.

    And, just to add, even though other teams "cheat", the pats have been *caught*, now more than once, so I think the sentence should be harsher than it would have been without the prior infractions. So yeah, at least 8 games, $1M fine, a loss of a draft pick (again), and something else. It'll never happen though, since they want Brady on the field for ratings, but imo it's what *should* happen. The interesting thing will be that X years from now, when he finally starts to stink up the joint, that you *know* the media and the league will turn on him so fast his head will fly off his neck.
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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
    What about the fumble statistics?
    I understand the Bills haven't had a real coach in about 18 years. However some teams do. That said,it takes a special kind of mind to note that the Patriots have the lowest fumble rate in the league, note that Belichick is stricter than anyone else in the league about fumbles and will remove a players touches almost completely for even a single fumble, and conclude that Belichick's strictness suggests the Patriots are cheating.

    Or, you know, it offers a perfectly plausible explanation other than cheating for why the Patriots may have an unusually low fumble rate.

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    What Do NFL Advertisers Think About Suspending Tom Brady?

    Deflategate has turned in to Bradygate. What the Patriots have done is all going to be blamed on one guy, and that's not right because I'm sure more than just one player was involved throughout, "The Cheating Years," but we all know how things work in the real world. One guy gets blamed for everything, and the rest skate.

    The NFL is built on TV advertising money.

    I originally thought that Brady is too big of a name to suspend for the entire season because TV advertisers would be horrified.

    No Brady equals fewer eyeballs watching 2 hours worth of commercials, right? Maybe not.

    The Patriots play in 5 Prime Time games this year, so the NFL has every reason to give the Patriots a paltry slap on the wrist and suspend him for 1 or 2 games at most.

    It's all about the money, right? The NFL's bread and butter are the advertisers that pay big dollars to capture the biggest viewing audience possible for their brand.

    "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

    Over at my mom's today and my dad made a great point. "No way in hell would I want him on a box of Wheaties. He's a cheater and everyone now knows it."

    It's Wheaties, not Cheaties. Words of advertising wisdom.

    If the NFL does not come down hard on the Patriots by making Tom Brady the fall guy, the NFL brand itself will be tarnished.

    Everyone now knows the Patriots cheated, even my mom!

    Companies may actually pull their advertising dollars away from the NFL if Brady gets a slap on his limp wrist.

    Advertisers might love the idea of suspending Brady for the entire year because everyone and their mother is going to tune in to watch the Patriots get what they deserve.

    What goes around comes around in the form of an 8 game suspension.

    My guess is that the NFL will middle it and suspend Brady for 8 games. The NFL is going to want to have it both ways by suspending him for half the season, and then hope everyone tunes in to watch the return of Tom Brady against the Giants in New York, Bills in Prime Time at Foxboro, and the Broncos in Prime Time at Denver.

    Some people think this is all to do about nothing like Chris Christie. Some people think Brady should be suspended for the entire season, like me.

    What Chris Christie and I think doesn't really matter. What matters to the NFL is what will make their advertisers the most satisfied.

    If you were a marketing genius, would you want Tom Brady representing your company right now?

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

    What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?
    Don't feed the troll*

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by feldspar View Post
    YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

    What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?
    Who was caught cheating ? The only thing I've seen is both teams had under inflated balls.

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    I understand the Bills haven't had a real coach in about 18 years. However some teams do. That said,it takes a special kind of mind to note that the Patriots have the lowest fumble rate in the league, note that Belichick is stricter than anyone else in the league about fumbles and will remove a players touches almost completely for even a single fumble, and conclude that Belichick's strictness suggests the Patriots are cheating.

    Or, you know, it offers a perfectly plausible explanation other than cheating for why the Patriots may have an unusually low fumble rate.
    You know, you're right. A coach who hates turnovers is a real outlier in the NFL. It's clear that no other coach would work on preventing fumbles and bench players for fumbling.

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    31 other owners, and 31 other fan bases should be pissed off and demanding appropriate punishment. Pretty sure the vast majority are, so apparently we're not on this wagon alone. The only thing I'm ever going to be ashamed of, possibly in the future, is continuing to support an organization that is allegedly built on competitive integrity yet run like professional wrestling.
    Has any owner publicly commented since the report was released? I couldn't care less about fan bases, but an owner speaking out would be interesting to follow.
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    Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

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    Sore losers.

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    This coming from a guy with Vladimir Putin as his avatar. How fitting, seeing as Putin would would do practically anything to stay in power, including cheating to remain dictator of Russia ever since 1999.

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    LMAO

    Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

    Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
    I like how you neglected to include the part where that Sports Science segment showed that a slightly deflated ball is easier to grip and makes it easier to catch and hang on to. Sad to know that dishonesty is alive and well among the Patriots* AND their fans.

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    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

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    Has any owner publicly commented since the report was released? I couldn't care less about fan bases, but an owner speaking out would be interesting to follow.
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    Re: What Do NFL Advertisers Think About Suspending Tom Brady?

    Both teams had under inflated balls at 1/2 time.


    Get a life son.

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    Re: What Do NFL Advertisers Think About Suspending Tom Brady?

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    Both teams had under inflated balls at 1/2 time.


    Get a life son.
    Kiss my red white and blue ass, commie.

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    Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

    Brady was quoted as saying “some [quarterbacks] like them blown up a little bit more, some like them a little more thin” and there’ve been nights before road games when I have had trouble sleeping because I’m thinking about what kind of footballs I’ll be throwing the next day.”

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    Re: What Do NFL Advertisers Think About Suspending Tom Brady?

    Quote Originally Posted by upstart View Post
    Both teams had under inflated balls at 1/2 time.


    Get a life son.
    One team was stupid enough to manually let more air out after the refs checked the gameballs. The other team had game balls that were within league guidelines on at least one pressure gauge.

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    Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

    Quote Originally Posted by BillsImpossible View Post
    This coming from a guy with Vladimir Putin as his avatar. How fitting, seeing as Putin would would do practically anything to stay in power, including cheating to remain dictator of Russia ever since 1999.

    Can we acknowledge 99% of those who are crying for "justice", they don't care at all about justice.

    For the overwhelming majority of you clowns this is about seeing Tom Brady bleed. You don't want justice, you want to kick the guy that's been slapping your team around for 15 years. Can't do it on the field make it a rules issue.

    What a bunch of wimps.

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