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  • ckg927
    Not quite Best in the World....
    • Aug 2012
    • 21103

    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

    Originally posted by sudzy View Post
    The Ted Wells report was 243 pages of nothing I guess.
    In Chowd Nation, it certainly is.

    And people who want to be a part OF Chowd Nation.
    John Hemingway(facing certain death): I want to see Buffalo win the Super Bowl.
    David Coltrane(threatening John): Nobody's going to live that long, pal.


    -The John Larroquette Show, "A Dark and Stormy Night", 4/12/94

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    • Tiburon1724
      Registered User
      • Sep 2005
      • 368

      Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

      At least get it right, we beat them three times.
      2003 Season Opener
      Chan Gailey beat them
      and we beat them this past season. With Brady starting.

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      • psubills62
        Legendary Zoner
        • Sep 2008
        • 11295

        Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

        So every team cheats, but only the Patriots get turned in for it.

        And deflating balls isn't a big deal and made no difference, but apparently NE thought it was worthwhile to do despite potential consequences. And statistics also indicate it is extremely beneficial.

        NE and Brady are completely innocent, but won't willingly provide any context or evidence to indicate its innocence.

        Brady didn't know, yet was one of the people most likely to benefit and texts indicate he did know.

        "More probable than not" isn't definitive proof, but in reality almost zero cases provide definitive proof, yet judgments are still ruled. Sometimes you just need to use common sense.

        It's stupid for teams who lost to the Patriots to complain simply because we lost to them. Of course, deflated balls clearly had no effect on wins and losses.

        NE's PR campaign was super aggressive and blamed everyone else, which is always the way innocent people handle things.

        In the end, I think the question is if this is still the era of "just give it to them" or not.
        "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
        - Nicholas Cummings

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        • upstart
          Sir Osis of Liver
          • Sep 2006
          • 4555

          Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

          Originally posted by Strongman View Post
          The burden of proof NFL requires has been met by an impartial investigator to conclude they cheated, Brady knew about, and then lied about it.

          The Pats* game balls lost more air than can be explained by science, they have a Pats* employee who calls himself "The Deflator" who disapeared unescorted with the gameballs without the officials giving their okay for their removal, video of him disappearing into a bathroom with the gameballs, text messages between Brady and the equipment guys, etc.

          Face it, there is substantial proof they cheated and some proff they have been doing this a long time. They are going to be hung!
          LMAO

          Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

          Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
          The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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          • upstart
            Sir Osis of Liver
            • Sep 2006
            • 4555

            Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

            Originally posted by coastal View Post
            Blow me
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            • psubills62
              Legendary Zoner
              • Sep 2008
              • 11295

              Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

              Originally posted by upstart View Post
              LMAO

              Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

              Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
              Are you really quoting ESPN Sport Science as a source on this?

              Always the sign of a winning argument.

              "Misguided political correctness tethers our intellects."
              - Nicholas Cummings

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              • Joe Fo Sho
                Making Spirits Bright
                • Mar 2006
                • 6194

                Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                Originally posted by upstart View Post
                LMAO

                Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

                Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
                What about the fumble statistics?

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                • feldspar
                  Registered User
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 13620

                  Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                  Originally posted by upstart View Post
                  Move on.
                  YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

                  What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?

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                  • BertSquirtgum
                    Registered User
                    • May 2009
                    • 13379

                    Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                    Originally posted by upstart View Post
                    LMAO

                    Lets see, ESPN Sport Science showed pretty definitively that the amount of air pressure in the ball would have ZERO affect on the QB's ability to throw and that if anything an under inflated ball is a slight disadvantage...but hey don't let facts change the outcome.

                    Like I said this is a non issue. Move on.
                    I wonder why wells didn't use sports science as apart of their report.

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                    • upstart
                      Sir Osis of Liver
                      • Sep 2006
                      • 4555

                      Re: A hard rain’s a-gonna fall on Tom Brady and the Patriots

                      Sore losers.

                      I laugh
                      The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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                      • Mr. Cynical
                        Maybe?
                        • Oct 2003
                        • 9766

                        Re: Brady suspension coming next week

                        imho, it is almost irrelevant what the actual rule is that he/pats broke... there is a rule, he broke it, he lied and denied it, and then got caught. For that alone he should be suspended, otherwise it sets a precedent. If the nfl wants its rules to be "sort of binding", then ok, let him skate. But if they want "integrity of the shield", something we hear all the time, then he has to do the time.

                        And, just to add, even though other teams "cheat", the pats have been *caught*, now more than once, so I think the sentence should be harsher than it would have been without the prior infractions. So yeah, at least 8 games, $1M fine, a loss of a draft pick (again), and something else. It'll never happen though, since they want Brady on the field for ratings, but imo it's what *should* happen. The interesting thing will be that X years from now, when he finally starts to stink up the joint, that you *know* the media and the league will turn on him so fast his head will fly off his neck.
                        Last edited by Mr. Cynical; 05-10-2015, 07:06 PM.

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                        • upstart
                          Sir Osis of Liver
                          • Sep 2006
                          • 4555

                          Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                          Originally posted by Joe Fo Sho View Post
                          What about the fumble statistics?
                          I understand the Bills haven't had a real coach in about 18 years. However some teams do. That said,it takes a special kind of mind to note that the Patriots have the lowest fumble rate in the league, note that Belichick is stricter than anyone else in the league about fumbles and will remove a players touches almost completely for even a single fumble, and conclude that Belichick's strictness suggests the Patriots are cheating.

                          Or, you know, it offers a perfectly plausible explanation other than cheating for why the Patriots may have an unusually low fumble rate.
                          The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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                          • BillsImpossible
                            Registered User
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 16206

                            What Do NFL Advertisers Think About Suspending Tom Brady?

                            Deflategate has turned in to Bradygate. What the Patriots have done is all going to be blamed on one guy, and that's not right because I'm sure more than just one player was involved throughout, "The Cheating Years," but we all know how things work in the real world. One guy gets blamed for everything, and the rest skate.

                            The NFL is built on TV advertising money.

                            I originally thought that Brady is too big of a name to suspend for the entire season because TV advertisers would be horrified.

                            No Brady equals fewer eyeballs watching 2 hours worth of commercials, right? Maybe not.

                            The Patriots play in 5 Prime Time games this year, so the NFL has every reason to give the Patriots a paltry slap on the wrist and suspend him for 1 or 2 games at most.

                            It's all about the money, right? The NFL's bread and butter are the advertisers that pay big dollars to capture the biggest viewing audience possible for their brand.

                            "There's no such thing as bad publicity."

                            Over at my mom's today and my dad made a great point. "No way in hell would I want him on a box of Wheaties. He's a cheater and everyone now knows it."

                            It's Wheaties, not Cheaties. Words of advertising wisdom.

                            If the NFL does not come down hard on the Patriots by making Tom Brady the fall guy, the NFL brand itself will be tarnished.

                            Everyone now knows the Patriots cheated, even my mom!

                            Companies may actually pull their advertising dollars away from the NFL if Brady gets a slap on his limp wrist.

                            Advertisers might love the idea of suspending Brady for the entire year because everyone and their mother is going to tune in to watch the Patriots get what they deserve.

                            What goes around comes around in the form of an 8 game suspension.

                            My guess is that the NFL will middle it and suspend Brady for 8 games. The NFL is going to want to have it both ways by suspending him for half the season, and then hope everyone tunes in to watch the return of Tom Brady against the Giants in New York, Bills in Prime Time at Foxboro, and the Broncos in Prime Time at Denver.

                            Some people think this is all to do about nothing like Chris Christie. Some people think Brady should be suspended for the entire season, like me.

                            What Chris Christie and I think doesn't really matter. What matters to the NFL is what will make their advertisers the most satisfied.

                            If you were a marketing genius, would you want Tom Brady representing your company right now?

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                            • Mr. Cynical
                              Maybe?
                              • Oct 2003
                              • 9766

                              Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                              Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                              YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

                              What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?
                              Don't feed the troll*

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                              • upstart
                                Sir Osis of Liver
                                • Sep 2006
                                • 4555

                                Re: Bills fans should be ashamed of themselves.

                                Originally posted by feldspar View Post
                                YOU move on. Better yet, **** off.

                                What SHOULD happen when one is caught cheating?
                                Who was caught cheating ? The only thing I've seen is both teams had under inflated balls.
                                The NFL forgot the main component of any business model, the customer.


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