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  • Meathead
    Insufferable ***** and perpetual crybaby
    • Jul 2002
    • 21349

    #16
    Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

    according the bb.com hostler is still on staff, too

    so ej will go from a mind bottlingly stupid zero qb coaches (his first season) under doug maroon to three under rexy
    One set of rules for all in the beloved community

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    • Swiper
      Legendary Zoner
      • Sep 2010
      • 33105

      #17
      Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

      EJ Manuel is so bad that even having two coaches dedicated to a single player aren't enough to fix that garbage.

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      • DynaPaul
        Registered User
        • Sep 2003
        • 7540

        #18
        Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

        I'll take any offensive mastermind we can get to fix this offense.

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        • TedMock
          Registered User
          • Jul 2002
          • 3221

          #19
          Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

          Originally posted by Mace View Post
          I've read Harbaugh had someone else call offensive pass plays at Stanford while Roman did running plays, there was also speculation it was the same in SF, with Harbaugh calling the pass plays. Heh.

          http://blogs.mercurynews.com/kawakam...sistant-years/
          I've read that somewhere before. That seems like complete insanity to me. I could see one coach designing a bunch of running plays and one a bunch of passing plays, but to take turns making calls during a game seems crazy. You gameplan against your opponent and you have more than one play to go against different looks and more than one could be both runs and passes against that look. To predetermine "we are going to pass here" without even considering the other side, and vice versa, just makes Harbaugh sound like a lunatic to me. It also makes it difficult for the OC to get a proper feel and into a groove. The two people would have to be in complete lockstep and that takes a ton of practice in any field. Of course, nothing shocks me with regard to football coaches anymore.

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          • justasportsfan
            Registered User
            • Jul 2002
            • 71601

            #20
            Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

            Palmer another asst. with young QB history
            Posted by Chris Brown on January 26, 2015 – 4:07 pm

            One of the last assistants announced as part of Rex Ryan’s coaching staff has a lengthy resume when it comes to working with young quarterbacks.

            Offensive assistant Chris Palmer has worked in the NFL since 1990 and has coached several quarterbacks early in their careers.

            He coached Drew Bledsoe with the Patriots under Bill Parcells when they won the AFC title in 1996.

            He coached Mark Brunell, though he was a vet at the time, to the AFC title game.

            After serving as head coach for expansion Cleveland and Offensive coordinator for expansion Houston he worked with a young Eli Manning winning a Super Bowl in 2007.

            He’s most recently served as OC of Tennessee 2011-2012.





            My guess s David Lee is there to try and fix Ej's mechanics and Palmer is help him read
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            https://theinterviewwithgod.com/video/

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            • Mace
              Haha...yeah you think so ?
              • Mar 2013
              • 20315

              #21
              Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

              Originally posted by TedMock View Post
              I've read that somewhere before. That seems like complete insanity to me. I could see one coach designing a bunch of running plays and one a bunch of passing plays, but to take turns making calls during a game seems crazy. You gameplan against your opponent and you have more than one play to go against different looks and more than one could be both runs and passes against that look. To predetermine "we are going to pass here" without even considering the other side, and vice versa, just makes Harbaugh sound like a lunatic to me. It also makes it difficult for the OC to get a proper feel and into a groove. The two people would have to be in complete lockstep and that takes a ton of practice in any field. Of course, nothing shocks me with regard to football coaches anymore.
              I agree, and it's looking more as I mentioned :

              The Buffalo Bills hired Greg Roman to be their offensive coordinator, but much like his days at Stanford, Roman will apparently focus more on the run game.
              New #Bills OC Greg Roman will concentrate mainly on run game. QB coach David Lee & WR coach Sanjay Lal will focus on passing game.
              — Vic Carucci (@viccarucci) January 26, 2015
              From : http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/2...-buffalo-bills

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              • THATHURMANATOR
                Registered User
                • Jul 2002
                • 69112

                #22
                Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                My god who cares people.

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                • Mace
                  Haha...yeah you think so ?
                  • Mar 2013
                  • 20315

                  #23
                  Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                  Originally posted by THATHURMANATOR View Post
                  My god who cares people.
                  Well I do really. It's looking like a weird way to run an offense when the offense is the HC's achilles heel to begin with. Throwing that many people into a pot and hoping it makes an offense kind of alarms me.

                  I'm still trying to make heads or tails of hiring Ryan to begin with.

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                  • TedMock
                    Registered User
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 3221

                    #24
                    Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                    Originally posted by Mace View Post
                    I agree, and it's looking more as I mentioned :



                    From : http://www.ninersnation.com/2015/1/2...-buffalo-bills
                    I'm fine with run/pass coordinator roles. I do not like the thought of dual play calling on game day. Collectively gameplanning is good. Still need one voice calling plays to minimize confusion/mistakes on Sunday, imo.

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                    • better days
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2010
                      • 22028

                      #25
                      Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                      They were talking about Palmer on WGR yesterday.

                      Palmer just loves Coaching, that is why he wanted this job.

                      I have heard people say that EJ can't be Coached up to improve because he hasn't yet.

                      Well, let's look at it. WHO Exactly Coached EJ at FSU & what are their qualifications?

                      His Rookie year, EJ had no QB Coach, a MEDIOCRE OC & no vet QB to learn from.

                      Last season, EJ did get a QB Coach (who knows how good he is/was?) & had a MEDIOCRE vet QB to learn from.

                      Nobody knows how much if anything EJ learned last year?

                      David Lee & Chris Palmer are both experienced successful Coaches of QB's.

                      EJ & the other QB's on the Bills will get the best Coaching they have ever had.

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                      • better days
                        Registered User
                        • Jan 2010
                        • 22028

                        #26
                        Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                        And if Rex, Roman & the rest of the Offensive Coaches Coach up EJ & he improves, how inept will that make Marrone & Hackett look?

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                        • mightysimi
                          Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                          • Mar 2010
                          • 6342

                          #27
                          Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                          Originally posted by Mace View Post
                          Well I do really. It's looking like a weird way to run an offense when the offense is the HC's achilles heel to begin with. Throwing that many people into a pot and hoping it makes an offense kind of alarms me.

                          I'm still trying to make heads or tails of hiring Ryan to begin with.
                          If it gets the team to 3 championship games and one superbowl like SF, I don't care how they do it.

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                          • Mace
                            Haha...yeah you think so ?
                            • Mar 2013
                            • 20315

                            #28
                            Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                            Originally posted by mightysimi View Post
                            If it gets the team to 3 championship games and one superbowl like SF, I don't care how they do it.
                            That's a reach. We don't have Harbaugh, Kaepernick, Solari, Vernon Davis, etc.

                            Run or pass, you're on the clock, the mike will shut off, the QB is hearing this, final call is up to the legendary offense guy, um, Rex Ryan.

                            You'll care plenty. "If" it gets us to 3 championship games and one Super Bowl. We aren't the 49'ers, and we aren't even the early Jets. So it's a reach thinking we might be.

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                            • better days
                              Registered User
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 22028

                              #29
                              Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                              Originally posted by Mace View Post
                              That's a reach. We don't have Harbaugh, Kaepernick, Solari, Vernon Davis, etc.

                              Run or pass, you're on the clock, the mike will shut off, the QB is hearing this, final call is up to the legendary offense guy, um, Rex Ryan.

                              You'll care plenty. "If" it gets us to 3 championship games and one Super Bowl. We aren't the 49'ers, and we aren't even the early Jets. So it's a reach thinking we might be.
                              I disagree. We have yet to see the final roster before the next season starts, but I will match this Bills defense against the Jets defense that went to two AFC Championship games.

                              And I think EJ is as good as Sanchez.

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                              • Swiper
                                Legendary Zoner
                                • Sep 2010
                                • 33105

                                #30
                                Re: Bills hired Chris Palmer as Senior Offensive Assistant

                                David Lee has been proven to be a failure in Buffalo, then with the JETs. He was terrible at both places. The Bills QBs regressed under his tutelage. And I don't recall much about Palmer back from the days when he held higher coaching positions other than he had big problems. I don't necessarily think that using guys like Palmer as position coaches is a bad thing. Arizona built a nice coaching staff doing just that. But just because a guy says he loves coaching doesn't mean he's a good coach. So we'll have to wait and see what he produces. But anyone given the job of resuscitating the pariah known as EJ Manuel should know that is a waste of their time.
                                Last edited by swiper; 01-31-2015, 04:39 AM.

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