Have we all given up on EJ too soon

[sudzy]

oh boy...


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I'm bumping this, because this is the problem that all the "EJ could still be the QB of the future" are ignoring. Throws like this were way to common. Even on screen pass, EJ would be way off target.

[YardRat]

It's a bad throw, but that specific example looks more like a result of not being on the same page...EJ threw down the hash in the direction Wood was headed before he cut across. Not excusing EJ by any means, just don't believe it's simply a matter of an off-target pass.

[sudzy]

[Buckets]

NO!!!

[better days]

When Rex & Roman give up on EJ, so will I.

But not before then. I saw Steve Young look God awful in Tampa before he got GOOD Coaching.

[swiper]

LOL @ EJ Manuel being compared to Steve Young.

[Mace]

I think the way Roman used Smith in SF, and KC uses him now, is the better formula for EJ to build from. Short passes, quick reads, throw in the occasional run. EJ needs to start somewhere, and if he can't succeed in a Smith-style offense his howitzer arm is a non-issue unless he improves drastically on his accuracy and awareness in the pocket, not to mention reading defenses. IMO considering those weaknesses, if you tailor the gameplan for his downfield throws you might as well tie an anchor to him and watch him sink. Cut him now, because it's extremely unlikely he's going to crash out of the gate this season and all of sudden be light years better than he has in the past.

Easiest way to compare Smith to Manuel is to say both were spread QB's who struggled transitioning to quick read, west coast pro style offense, and bounced through multiple OC's early.

It's also easier for some people to hope Manuel is "just" a game manager, but if you look at Smith though, he's refined it to an art, compared to other game manager QB's the teams have to work around instead of using as a weapon. "Just" a game manager can be a glorious thing.

No clue if that evolution is possible with Manuel, but I'd be happier if I found out he was practicing with Alex Smith in the offseason. He's not though, so it goes back to crapshoot.

[WagonCircler]

EJ = Trent Edwards. Period.

An inaccurate pussy who runs out of bounds one yard shy of the first down marker and who is terrified of throwing downfield or into traffic because he knows how inaccurate he is.

He is Captain Checkdown Jr.

[BillsImpossible]

Cut.

[better days]

EJ = Trent Edwards. Period.

An inaccurate pussy who runs out of bounds one yard shy of the first down marker and who is terrified of throwing downfield or into traffic because he knows how inaccurate he is.

He is Captain Checkdown Jr.

Orton retired. That is who you were talking about right?

Or maybe both Orton & EJ were told to play that way by the IDIOTS Coaching the team.

[better days]

LOL @ EJ Manuel being compared to Steve Young.

YES I compared EJ to Steve Young in TAMPA!

Not after Young got GOOD Coaching in San Francisco.

You would have said the same about Young if you saw him in Tampa that you say about EJ.

[swiper]

YES I compared EJ to Steve Young in TAMPA!

Not after Young got GOOD Coaching in San Francisco.

You would have said the same about Young if you saw him in Tampa that you say about EJ.

I DID see him in Tampa plenty. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH COACHING. HE JUST TOOK SEVEN YRS TO DEVELOP. THAT IS WHO HE IS. I HAVE POSTED THIS HERE MANY TIMES. HE IS NOT EJ MANUEL. EVERYONE KNEW THAT YOUNG WAS AND WOULD GOOD. ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD POINT ANY OF IT ON COACHING. COACHING HAD ZERO TO DO WITH IT. JUST ASK YOUNG HIMSELF.

ANYONE WHO THINKS EJ MANUEL WILL FOLLOW A PATH SIMILAR TO THAT OF YOUNG IS AN IDIOT.

[WagonCircler]

Orton retired. That is who you were talking about right?

Or maybe both Orton & EJ were told to play that way by the IDIOTS Coaching the team.

Same old rainbows and lollipops.

Here's a news flash. Orton was a terrible QB, but he sent EJ's pathetic ass to the bench, and kept him there for the rest of the season.

The idiots are people who think EJ has any value as a QB in this league. He's ****ing horrendous, and everyone with a brain who writes or talks about he NFL knows that Buffalo has NO QB. You look at any list of team by team needs, and Buffalo's is QB, 100% of the time.

[swiper]

Well I suspect all the EJ circle-jerk team here can all try and explain their way out of their paper bag when this coaching regime dumps Manuel. Which despite their recent veiled support is very likely they will do the minute they can get someone better.

[better days]

I DID see him in Tampa plenty. IT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH COACHING. HE JUST TOOK SEVEN YRS TO DEVELOP. THAT IS WHO HE IS. I HAVE POSTED THIS HERE MANY TIMES. HE IS NOT EJ MANUEL. EVERYONE KNEW THAT YOUNG WAS AND WOULD GOOD. ONLY AN IDIOT WOULD POINT ANY OF IT ON COACHING. COACHING HAD ZERO TO DO WITH IT. JUST ASK YOUNG HIMSELF.

ANYONE WHO THINKS EJ MANUEL WILL FOLLOW A PATH SIMILAR TO THAT OF YOUNG IS AN IDIOT.

Well, OBVIOUSLY, NOT EVERYONE knew what Young would become or the Bucs would not have traded him. IDIOT.

And YES, GOOD COACHING/system that suited his talent in San Francisco is the reason Young became a HOF QB

[better days]

Well I suspect all the EJ circle-jerk team here can all try and explain their way out of their paper bag when this coaching regime dumps Manuel. Which despite their recent veiled support is very likely they will do the minute they can get someone better.

NOBODY is saying the Coaching staff will not dump EJ after they make their judgement of him.

NOBODY is saying EJ will become a pro bowl player, rational fans are in wait & see mode on EJ.

[YardRat]

Uh-oh. Caps lock. "Is thing on? 'Cause it's about to be!"

[swiper]

Well, OBVIOUSLY, NOT EVERYONE knew what Young would become or the Bucs would not have traded him.

No. Not one idiot. Two. You and John McKay.

And YES, GOOD COACHING/system that suited his talent in San Francisco is the reason Young became a HOF QB

Coaching had ZERO with how Steve Young turned out. Crawl back under your rock now.

[better days]

No. Not one idiot. Two. You and John McKay.



Coaching had ZERO with how Steve Young turned out. Crawl back under your rock now.

LMAO at you.

The 49ers with Walsh as HC are regarded as having some of the BEST Coaching in NFL History. IDIOT.

Just proves what an IDIOT you are to dismiss the Coaching Young received in regards to his development.

[WagonCircler]

LMAO at you.

The 49ers with Walsh as HC are regarded as having some of the BEST Coaching in NFL History. IDIOT.

Just proves what an IDIOT you are to dismiss the Coaching Young received in regards to his development.

Steve Young could never have become as good as he was without his God given talent. Coaching can help to improve upon natural talent, but it can't replace it.

EJ lacks the accuracy gene. No coach can implant one of those.