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Look we all know EJ is not going to be an elite top 5 QB who wills his team into super bowl contention despite the talent around him, we get that. What I am asking is does EJ have a chance to develop into a top 16 to lower above average QB area. This is the Dalton, Alex Smith, Tanneyhill area, none of those guys are going to win the game alone and need to be on a good team and they have noticeable weaknesses and can absolutely lose a game for you (Dalton Thursday night vs browns Tanneyhill week 2 against us and both games in 2013). This is the question I have for all of us. Now I fully expect the Bills to bring in 2 FA one with a legit chance to start and probably an older guy to compete with Tuel for the backup job and be a mentor slash last ditch effort if Ej and FA blow up in flames. However, lets just say for the sake of this debate that EJ wins the job. We all agree he has not done anything to ease the concerns but I do believe he has physical traits that can make him an above average QB and help this team. He has a great arm, he is very smart, does work his tail off, can make every throw a pro QB needs to make, his accuracy can be on the money or way off though, and he does not give his WRs a chance on deep balls. I honestly believe the deep ball issue can be resolved and he did make some strides late in his rookie season and even this year that throw to Sammy against the phins was on the money but a great play by Grimes. Heck to be honest I am not sure why I am even posting this because the majority of you do not see an elite QB and will say suck for whomever in 2016. I on the other hand say if Kaep and Dalton can look decent and help teams to playoffs I do not see any reason EJ cannot, hopefully this staff lets him cut loose and he drops that fear of turnover mentality and just plays and fires away.
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Re: Have we all given up on EJ too soon
Roman said of EJ: "we just have to turn him loose".
I expect Roman to run the same type of offense the 49ers ran with Kaepernick.
I expect EJ to be named the starter. HOPE he plays well. -
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With the caliber of QBs available in free agency, as well as the fact that we don't have a 1st round pick, EJ is going to be given every chance to win the starting job this coming year. If he can't beat out a 'Matt Moore' type free agent or a middle round rookie QB, then he's got problems...and so do we more than likely.
I think it's safe to say that if EJ earns the starting job this year, everyone on this board will be rooting for him to succeed. EJ becoming an above average QB is a better solution than drafting a QB high next year any way you look at it. If he struggles out of the gate, that's when you're going to see people start talking about drafting a QB high in 2016. I can't root for the Bills to lose, so I'll be backing whoever is behind center all season long.Comment
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I'm so tired of everyone saying we can't get a QB because we don't have a first round pick. Even if we did have our first pick at #19, there is no QB in this class that will go in the first round that I think is that much better than EJ or anybody in FA. Any QB we think we might take a shot at will likely be there in the second round.Comment
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I fear it is EJ or bust this year.Comment
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"You can't be a real country unless you have beer and an airline - it helps if you have some kind of a football team, or some nuclear weapons, but at the very least you need beer."
~ Frank ZappaComment
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Even if we had 19 the price to move up to get Mariota (whom I am not sold on) or Winston (best to come out since luck but off field) would be other worldly and Whaley would not do it. Also if Mariota and Winston are considered that good no way Bucs or Titans trade away from him since they need guys as well. As for the gif posted yes he has missed throws and badly, but so do all the QBs in the NFL even Tom and Peyton.Comment
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While playing "Turn Me Loose" from Loverboy.Originally posted by bleve View Post
ROFL.Comment
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But Tom and Peyton have both been to the Super Bowl in 2014 or 2015. So stuff a sock in that thought.Originally posted by DesertFox24 View PostComment
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Should have hired trestman.Political correctness ( or cancel culture as it is called today) is a doctrine fostered by a delusional ,illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by MSM which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end.
Harry S Truman 1941.Comment
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Re: Have we all given up on EJ too soon
It doesn't matter whichever fans think whatever about EJ Manuel. It matters what the coaches think about EJ Manuel. It matters what they think about how he measures up to whomever they bring in to compete. Not too complicated, and this goes without saying.
Seems like EJ will be on the team no matter what next year. Doesn't seem like the Bills will have a chance to bring in a world-beater at QB. He'll have his chance to compete. I don't see what the discussion is here. Anybody that has "given up" on EJ Manuel will be the same people rooting for him if he starts.Comment
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You'd hope so, but there are some posters who will not be rooting for him. They'd rather be right in their negative certitude than pleasantly surprised.Originally posted by feldspar View PostComment
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My point is only that we probably won't draft a QB that will start this coming year. We absolutely could find a gem later than the 1st round, but the likelihood of that QB starting in 2015 is pretty low. By starting, I mean week 1. I have to think that EJ has the best chance of winning the starting job week 1, unless we make a trade or an unlikely QB becomes a free agent this year.Originally posted by Mr. Miyagi View PostComment
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Some people are like that, but that's THEIR problem, isn't it?Originally posted by Dr. Who View Post
But I think that a great portion of the people that think none-too-highly of him will root for him anyway if he suits up to start. They'd come equipped with their "I told you so" backup ammo of course, but it's still their own deal.
I think that even his biggest supporters are of the attitude that "we may have given up on him too soon," or that he needs another chance. That's probably the ceiling of his fans in general right now. So the "I told ya so" thing should be kept in everyone's pocket...we know better than that, though...it won't be.
I'll just root for whomever is behind Center. What the hell else would I do?Comment
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I won't even be watching if he starts.
It will be back to boozing and skirt chasing for me.
Sunday Funday.
I've already seen the EJ show. It sucks balls. It was a remake of the Trent Edwards show.
If EJ is the plan, then Rex Ryan is a ****ing idiot.Comment
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