Opinion: The Pegula's Will Build A New Stadium In Orchard Park

[BillsImpossible]

Right next to RWS.

A downtown NFL stadium is the farthest thing from a single silver bullet solution to the economic problems that ail the city of Buffalo.

8 games a year downtown is not going to change much. Some new businesses will try to capitalize on the opportunity, but 8 days a year isn't much to work with. If the new venue acts as a convention center that hosts events year round, that's a different story that involves building a domed stadium, which is not a popular idea in Buffalo. Doesn't take a million dollar marketing study to figure out that Bills fans don't want to be stuck under a dome.

Retractable roof? It's only another $200 million.

What the Pegula's have going now downtown is great. Never saw so many people in the city on a Sunday....

I don't want to build a new stadium downtown for the sake of building a new stadium downtown with hopes that it will magically regenerate the city of Buffalo.

That's Fantasyland, and I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

Why didn't the Patriots build Gillette Stadium in downtown Boston?

Have you ever attempted to drive in Boston?

Jerryland was built in Arlington, TX. Why not Dallas?

Traffic.

On any given working day in the city of Buffalo, about 100,000 commuters or more travel to work downtown.

Imagine having every person that works downtown trying to travel to one place in the middle of the city.

Take a Buffalo Sabres playoff game and multiply the traffic X 5.

Hosting an NFL game in downtown Buffalo is not feasible without billions of dollars invested in road infrastructure expenditures.

If Terry and Kim Pegula can convince the State of New York to invest, "The Buffalo Billion," in new roads and bridges that will make the city capable of handling the traffic, then a new stadium downtown is possible.

The road infrastructure must be built first. The Pegula's can not possibly build a new stadium downtown without it.

Hoping New York State will kick the big bucks in to what is necessary to accommodate the amount of people that attend a Buffalo Bills game is wishful thinking at best.

A brand new stadium built right next to the Ralph?

No environmental studies necessary. No traffic study or road funding worries.

It's the path of least business building resistance.

If the Bills build a new stadium in Orchard Park, I don't think many fans would complain.

[feldspar]

I guess we'll all stop speculating now.

[BillsImpossible]

I guess we'll all stop speculating now.

The Pegula's and Bills fans have about 5 years at most to speculate.

In the meantime, New York State has about 5 years to build a billion dollars worth of new roads and bridges, and that's not going to happen.

[feldspar]

The Pegula's and Bills fans have about 5 years at most to speculate.

In the meantime, New York State has about 5 years to build a billion dollars worth of new roads and bridges, and that's not going to happen.

We'll see, pal.

I'd love for the new stadium to be in Orchard Park, personally.

[Mr. Pink]

And the NFL doesn't play on workdays, so if 100,000 commuters go downtown daily for work, what's about 65,000 commuters and likely 30,000 cars going downtown on a Sunday to watch a football game?

[THATHURMANATOR]

Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

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Billion dollars in roads??? What???

[BillsImpossible]

Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

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Billion dollars in roads??? What???

Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.

Takes lots of $ to pay for that.

A section of Main Street in downtown Buffalo was recently made accessible to vehicular traffic of all things.

That project alone cost many millions of dollars.

[Mr. Pink]

There are 3 ways into and out of downtown...

33, 190 and 5. 190 has multiple exits to access downtown.

How many more roads do you need?

For perspective there are 2 ways into Orchard Park, 90 and 219, meanwhile if you're heading to the North Towns, you're only taking 219 to 90 anyway.

The one thing that would be needed is parking but if they use a large enough parcel of land, they'll have the parking.

[WagonCircler]

Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.
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My GOD you're naive.

Major road construction is how politicians get paid in this state. Kickbacks from contractors.

[Dr. Lecter]

So he has built the Harbor Center and owns the Sabres downtown and now will put his sure to be multi use facility in OP and not downtown?

Really?

[BertSquirtgum]

So he has built the Harbor Center and owns the Sabres downtown and now will put his sure to be multi use facility in OP and not downtown?

Really?

Exactly. The new stadium is going downtown. Anyone that doesn't believe that is an ignorant fool.

[DetDannyWilliams]

Right next to RWS.

A downtown NFL stadium is the farthest thing from a single silver bullet solution to the economic problems that ail the city of Buffalo.

8 games a year downtown is not going to change much. Some new businesses will try to capitalize on the opportunity, but 8 days a year isn't much to work with. If the new venue acts as a convention center that hosts events year round, that's a different story that involves building a domed stadium, which is not a popular idea in Buffalo. Doesn't take a million dollar marketing study to figure out that Bills fans don't want to be stuck under a dome.

Retractable roof? It's only another $200 million.

What the Pegula's have going now downtown is great. Never saw so many people in the city on a Sunday....

I don't want to build a new stadium downtown for the sake of building a new stadium downtown with hopes that it will magically regenerate the city of Buffalo.

That's Fantasyland, and I'm a glass half full kind of guy.

Why didn't the Patriots build Gillette Stadium in downtown Boston?

Have you ever attempted to drive in Boston?

Jerryland was built in Arlington, TX. Why not Dallas?

Traffic.

On any given working day in the city of Buffalo, about 100,000 commuters or more travel to work downtown.

Imagine having every person that works downtown trying to travel to one place in the middle of the city.

Take a Buffalo Sabres playoff game and multiply the traffic X 5.

Hosting an NFL game in downtown Buffalo is not feasible without billions of dollars invested in road infrastructure expenditures.

If Terry and Kim Pegula can convince the State of New York to invest, "The Buffalo Billion," in new roads and bridges that will make the city capable of handling the traffic, then a new stadium downtown is possible.

The road infrastructure must be built first. The Pegula's can not possibly build a new stadium downtown without it.

Hoping New York State will kick the big bucks in to what is necessary to accommodate the amount of people that attend a Buffalo Bills game is wishful thinking at best.

A brand new stadium built right next to the Ralph?

No environmental studies necessary. No traffic study or road funding worries.

It's the path of least business building resistance.

If the Bills build a new stadium in Orchard Park, I don't think many fans would complain.

Right that's why WGRZ, BN, Sienna College poll done last week said that 73% prefer a new stadium to be built in Downtown

[MikeNC]

Guaranteed downtown. What a waste of time with this longwinded post

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Billion dollars in roads??? What???

Agreed... I live in Charlotte and I can leave the stadium and be home in 15 minutes, and I live up in University City....

[BertSquirtgum]

Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.

Takes lots of $ to pay for that.

A section of Main Street in downtown Buffalo was recently made accessible to vehicular traffic of all things.

That project alone cost many millions of dollars.

Not a fact. Just your opinion. You often confuse your opinions with facts.

[WagonCircler]

Agreed... I live in Charlotte and I can leave the stadium and be home in 15 minutes, and I live up in University City....

Just take Tryon!

[THATHURMANATOR]

Yup. Major road constuction is necessary in order to facilitate NFL football in downtown Buffalo. That's a fact, not exaggeration.

Takes lots of $ to pay for that.

A section of Main Street in downtown Buffalo was recently made accessible to vehicular traffic of all things.

That project alone cost many millions of dollars.

No **** but are u aware of the difference between several million ad opposed to billions????

[THATHURMANATOR]

What makes this Thread even dumber is the notion that the pegulas would prefer to build in op when all their other holdings are downtown

[Dr. Who]

I'd be really surprised if it doesn't end up downtown.

[Dude]

Sorry, I hate to be grammar nazi, but Pegula's is possessive. Pegulas is plural.

Ok I feel better now.

[BillsImpossible]

No **** but are u aware of the difference between several million ad opposed to billions????

1 billion dollars is 1,000 million.

Tearing down the Skyway and replacing it alone would cost hundreds of millions of dollars.

Speaking of the Skyway, it is often shut down in the middle of winter.

Imagine having thousands of people stranded in their cars on the Skyway in the middle of a winter storm?

If you want to have a stadium downtown, the Skyway has to be demolished because it is a huge liability.