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  • Dr. Who
    Registered User
    • Jul 2002
    • 719

    #31
    Re: evander kane saga

    Originally posted by Dude View Post
    Done deal.

    To BUF: Kane, Bogosian, Jason Kasdorf (unsigned goalie prospect)
    to PEG: Myers, Stafford, Lemieux, Armia, Isles 1st.

    Wow.



    http://www.tsn.ca/kane-bogosian-deal...-deal-1.205003
    Wow is right. I am feeling kinda stunned.
    My initial gut feeling is we paid too much.
    Kane is a beast if his attitude is right, though.
    Kane, Reinhart, Girgensons, and McEichel is a nice core to rebuild with.

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    • gebobs
      One Bills Drive, Georgia - 871 miles south of Orchard Park
      • Sep 2003
      • 11520

      #32
      Re: evander kane saga

      Damn...hate losing Lemieux and Kane's injury.

      Too much I think. Basically four 1sts rounders (Myers, Armia, Lemieux, Isles pick) for two (Bogosian and Kane) though admittedly their two have proven worth.
      Lehner's history. He just doesn't know it yet.

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      • coastal
        Legendary Zoner
        • Mar 2005
        • 15513

        #33
        Re: evander kane saga

        Murray got fleeced

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        • coastal
          Legendary Zoner
          • Mar 2005
          • 15513

          #34
          Re: evander kane saga

          Teams must have been offering pretty much nothing for Myers

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          • Dr. Lecter
            Zero for Zero!
            • Mar 2003
            • 67938

            #35
            Re: evander kane saga

            Way too much. Way too much.
            Originally posted by mysticsoto
            Lecter is right in everything he said.

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            • JATMtheJATM
              Registered User
              • Aug 2012
              • 59331

              #36
              Re: evander kane saga

              Originally posted by coastal View Post
              Murray got fleeced
              i feel he gave up too much, to be certain.

              but i just thought of it this way as well. kane has one of the highest goals per 60 minutes stats in the NHL, right up there with some mega stars like malkin.

              you throw kane on a line with eichel or mcdavid next year, you have some SERIOUS scoring punch, right off the bat, to help the young kid learn. this deal, starting next year, is the new look sabres team murray was talking about when he said he plans to plug in some kids next year and let them play. i suspect next year will be alot different, and alot more fun.

              but you know me, im the optimist.
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              • mightysimi
                Buckle me in on the highway of sin
                • Mar 2010
                • 6334

                #37
                Re: evander kane saga

                bogosian was a high pick as well and still fairly young. If he can stay healthy he is an easy top 4 guy maybe top 2.

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                • Dr. Lecter
                  Zero for Zero!
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 67938

                  #38
                  Re: evander kane saga

                  Originally posted by JATMtheJATM View Post
                  i feel he gave up too much, to be certain.

                  but i just thought of it this way as well. kane has one of the highest goals per 60 minutes stats in the NHL, right up there with some mega stars like malkin.

                  you throw kane on a line with eichel or mcdavid next year, you have some SERIOUS scoring punch, right off the bat, to help the young kid learn. this deal, starting next year, is the new look sabres team murray was talking about when he said he plans to plug in some kids next year and let them play. i suspect next year will be alot different, and alot more fun.

                  but you know me, im the optimist.
                  That's because you're young.


                  Wait until you get older and it's beat out of you.
                  Originally posted by mysticsoto
                  Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                  • coastal
                    Legendary Zoner
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 15513

                    #39
                    Re: evander kane saga

                    Digesting further...

                    Myers for Bogosian straight up.

                    stafford for a goalie prospect.

                    e Kane for a late first and two prospects.

                    looking at it this way... it's not a bad deal.

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                    • chernobylwraiths
                      Registered User
                      • Jan 2003
                      • 41838

                      #40
                      Re: evander kane saga

                      Seems to be a lot, and more than I expected to give up, but:
                      Stafford will likely be gone after this year and certainly would have been gone from Buffalo's roster (unless he loves it here and we could resign him :) )
                      Armia, while has promise, IS an AHL player this year and has had trouble staying healthy.
                      Lemieux is a SECOND rounder, as much as people like to say that he is pretty much a first rounder. To be honest, I was most sad to see him go, but he is still a very unproven commodity.
                      And our worst first, so we still have two. Remember, you can only sign and play so many high picks and they don't all pan out. I just hope the ones he picks do.

                      We get a gritty player who has good scoring ability in Kane. (though, him being hurt raises concerns)
                      We get a gritty defenseman who is supposed to be good defensively and has some offensive ability (though he has even more injury concerns)

                      So, we got 2 proven NHL players (barring injury) for the forseeable future for one proven NHL player (who has has some of his own injury concerns) and a rental plus three prospects.

                      Now, what I want to know is, how good of a prospect is the goalie?

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                      • JATMtheJATM
                        Registered User
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 59331

                        #41
                        Re: evander kane saga

                        its disappointing because i really like armias game. i feel he was growing quickly. and i felt myers was certainly coming around nicely.

                        im very glad to hear they checked with kane and he is completely fine coming to buffalo
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                        • Dr. Lecter
                          Zero for Zero!
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 67938

                          #42
                          Re: evander kane saga

                          Gritty is over rated

                          I'm so sick of hearing "gritty". The Buffalo attitude that all players need to be blue collar and rough and tough is counter productive after awhile.
                          Originally posted by mysticsoto
                          Lecter is right in everything he said.

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                          • JATMtheJATM
                            Registered User
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 59331

                            #43
                            Re: evander kane saga

                            the goalie prospect is a long shot, at best. not really a long term solution.
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                            • JATMtheJATM
                              Registered User
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 59331

                              #44
                              Re: evander kane saga

                              Originally posted by coastal View Post
                              Teams must have been offering pretty much nothing for Myers
                              could be, i dont believe that for a minute. i suspect this deal came together and it made sense to murray.
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                              • GreedoII
                                Registered User
                                • Aug 2007
                                • 1301

                                #45
                                Re: evander kane saga

                                Not a bad deal at all. losing Lemieux hurts because I liked his future, but Armia has been flailing around in the minors for 5 years and is now just starting to get better....Stafford a stiff....Myers a bigger stiff...late 1st round... who cares already have 2 more.
                                Trimming the fat is how I see it. Good job.

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