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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Why not threaten to cut Goodell's salary each time a domestic violence act occurs by a member of the league? Pitch Goodell against the team owners and watch them improve this problem. If he knows his salary/livelihood is on the line he'll crack down on the owners to police her employees. If the owners know they'll have to contend with this or any future commissioner with this repercussion to deal with they'll keep each other in check. Only other option is to use a two strike rule. Punishment on the first offense, kicked out of the league on the second.
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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by jpdex12 View Post
    Why not threaten to cut Goodell's salary each time a domestic violence act occurs by a member of the league? Pitch Goodell against the team owners and watch them improve this problem. If he knows his salary/livelihood is on the line he'll crack down on the owners to police her employees. If the owners know they'll have to contend with this or any future commissioner with this repercussion to deal with they'll keep each other in check. Only other option is to use a two strike rule. Punishment on the first offense, kicked out of the league on the second.
    Whose going to threaten that though? His bosses are the owners. The owners are also the ones employing the player who has committed domestic violence.
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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by EricStratton View Post
    That was my thought as well.

    If teams are willfully turning a blind eye to violence then they should be held accountable.

    Fines and draft picks are the only way to do that.
    Is that possible to prove though?

    We can't even figure out who deflated a football, do you really thing we'll be able to figure when/if a team knew that a player was hitting a woman or child and did nothing about it?

    That's my question.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Is that possible to prove though?

    We can't even figure out who deflated a football, do you really thing we'll be able to figure when/if a team knew that a player was hitting a woman or child and did nothing about it?

    That's my question.

    I never said it would be easy. It's a great question that most likely doesn't have an answer. In cases like Ray Rice where it appears the team actively tried to intervene before this could reach even the AC law enforcement personnel maybe there is a paper trail but like anything else it if there is a rule in place teams will easily figure out ways around it with the NFL's blessing to protect the shield.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    I remember the days when players only drove drunk and killed people. Those were the days. Why were there no DWI commercials?
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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    Is that possible to prove though?

    We can't even figure out who deflated a football, do you really thing we'll be able to figure when/if a team knew that a player was hitting a woman or child and did nothing about it?

    That's my question.
    What they can do is the NFL can see how a team punishes a player individually, and based on that punishment can increase the punishment to said player. Additionally, if they do a two game for a Rice type offense the NFL should have the leverage to say you know what ravens that was weak say good bye to these draft picks or you are docked X amount from the cap.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by casdhf View Post
    I remember the days when players only drove drunk and killed people. Those were the days. Why were there no DWI commercials?
    You must of not had the pleasure of the Pat Summerall community service video on drinking and driving, he literally was never sober on the road.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    And there are also guys who have "character concerns" in college that never get in trouble in the NFL. It's holding teams accountable for something they have little to no control over, and possibly costing someone a million dollar career for doing something dumb when they were 21 or younger (not to mention some of those guys could make the league millions....).

    This is nothing but a PR move, so these congressmen and the league can show the public that they are tough on domestic violence. It will have no effect whatsoever on the amount of domestic violence.
    Yes it's a PR move, but doesn't mean the rules shouldn't still be applied.

    Here's a thought: The moment players sign a contract with an NFL team, have them sign an explicit agreement stating that certain infractions (domestic violence, DUIs, drug use) would result in a lengthy suspension (1 year) the first time, and a lifetime suspension from the NFL for the second infarction. Put it in plain words and give them a copy of their own agreement with their signature on it. Build this into every single NFL contract retrospectively and start on an even slate for everyone in the league. Do the same for all future players. There is nothing better than a uniform, consistent set of rules that applies evenly to everyone. Playing in the NFL should be a privilege.

    Next, tell NFL teams that they will lose (for example) a 4th round pick for any player banished for a second infarction. This will keep teams on active alert, likely resulting in behavioral interventions for all players from the start of their rookie season (behavioral programs like this exist in the NFL, but IMO, they are haphazard and applied unevenly since the NFL disciplinary rules are inconsistent, and sometimes arbitrary).

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Why just professional football? Shouldn't something like this apply to all professional sports and collegiate programs?
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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Why just professional football? Shouldn't something like this apply to all professional sports and collegiate programs?
    Look at Penn State, who was protecting the children there ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by DesertFox24 View Post
    What they can do is the NFL can see how a team punishes a player individually, and based on that punishment can increase the punishment to said player. Additionally, if they do a two game for a Rice type offense the NFL should have the leverage to say you know what ravens that was weak say good bye to these draft picks or you are docked X amount from the cap.
    Same paradox exist. Goodell works for the team owners.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by YardRat View Post
    Why just professional football? Shouldn't something like this apply to all professional sports and collegiate programs?
    Not everybody views this the same way.

    Same thing was asked about steroids and PED's when baseball was going through its juicing era. MLB has congressional hearings whereas the NFL was part of I think one joint hearing with other leagues.

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    Can you please send me one in VHS, Bluray, audio, and 3D formats? Thanks
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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by Lexwhat View Post
    Yes it's a PR move, but doesn't mean the rules shouldn't still be applied.

    Here's a thought: The moment players sign a contract with an NFL team, have them sign an explicit agreement stating that certain infractions (domestic violence, DUIs, drug use) would result in a lengthy suspension (1 year) the first time, and a lifetime suspension from the NFL for the second infarction. Put it in plain words and give them a copy of their own agreement with their signature on it. Build this into every single NFL contract retrospectively and start on an even slate for everyone in the league. Do the same for all future players. There is nothing better than a uniform, consistent set of rules that applies evenly to everyone. Playing in the NFL should be a privilege.

    Next, tell NFL teams that they will lose (for example) a 4th round pick for any player banished for a second infarction. This will keep teams on active alert, likely resulting in behavioral interventions for all players from the start of their rookie season (behavioral programs like this exist in the NFL, but IMO, they are haphazard and applied unevenly since the NFL disciplinary rules are inconsistent, and sometimes arbitrary).
    How many picks should we forfeit for OJ?

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    How many picks should we forfeit for OJ?
    If we're giving up picks for a guy who got acquitted then the Panthers and Pats may want to close up shop after the Rae Carruth/Aaron Hernandez situations.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    I sure hope this don't go back to the incident with his Mother..

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    I sure hope this don't go back to the incident with his Mother..
    From what I have been reading, it involves his girlfriend being pulled from her car.

    Speculation is the Cowboys are trying to damage Bryant's reputation to reduce his value.

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    Re: Rumor: Dez Bryant "Ray Rice-style" video coming out

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    From what I have been reading, it involves his girlfriend being pulled from her car.

    Speculation is the Cowboys are trying to damage Bryant's reputation to reduce his value.
    Well, If they wanted to do that, They could just give him 50k and send him to Vegas.

    Be much easier...

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