Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 21

Thread: Trade for AP

  1. #1
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace X-Era's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Corning, New York, United States
    Posts
    27,670
    Thanks
    1,006
    Thanked 2,040 Times in 1,212 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    83

    Trade for AP

    Rodak at ESPN (who sucks by the way) postulated this trade:

    http://espn.go.com/blog/buffalo-bill...work-for-bills

    Reason why I like this:

    1. Spiller is likely gone and we need a new dynamic back. It could come from the draft but AP is an instant upgrade
    2. It won't cost a 1st rounder. If we were serious about spending a 2nd rounder on a RB, why not spend a draft pick on AP?
    3. We have the room to absorb the contract
    4. Such a serious addition at RB allows Roman to run the ball and takes the pressure off a QB
    5. There is no instant stud QB in free agency or the draft. Id say spend your money there but I'd rather have an incredible run game and roll the dice with EJ or other at QB.


    I like the thought of getting one of the leagues best RB's if we lose Spiller.

    We should be looking for upgrades to get the team to the playoffs... AP would be that.


  2. #2
    Lecter's Little Bitch
    Mr. Miyagi's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Wisconsin
    Posts
    53,616
    Thanks
    713
    Thanked 2,702 Times in 1,367 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    161

    Re: Trade for AP

    What would Freddie's role be? He's not a speedster or a pounder.

  3. #3
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Location
    Montreal
    Posts
    1,908
    Thanks
    18
    Thanked 277 Times in 138 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    22

    Re: Trade for AP

    I know he's 29, but AP is not your average back. I think he's got at least 3 years left in him.

  4. #4
    This is great, and all I've done is enter my name! THRILLHO's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Charleston, SC
    Posts
    1,574
    Thanks
    85
    Thanked 394 Times in 208 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    20

    Re: Trade for AP

    But what would we be giving up for him? This is no bargain basement player. And sure, the Vikings may not want him back, but don't expect them to just give him away. I would expect the Vikings to ask for a first rounder. And do we really want to use that selection (next year) for a position that is continually being devalued?
    True fans want wins, not draft picks.

  5. #5
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace X-Era's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Corning, New York, United States
    Posts
    27,670
    Thanks
    1,006
    Thanked 2,040 Times in 1,212 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    83

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by THRILLHO View Post
    But what would we be giving up for him? This is no bargain basement player. And sure, the Vikings may not want him back, but don't expect them to just give him away. I would expect the Vikings to ask for a first rounder. And do we really want to use that selection (next year) for a position that is continually being devalued?
    I can't see a 1st for him. Maybe a 2nd.

  6. #6
    Insufferable prick and perpetual crybaby Meathead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Outer space
    Posts
    21,349
    Thanks
    3,655
    Thanked 3,785 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    78

    Re: Trade for AP

    teams dont even use a first anymore on the best rb in the draft why would anyone give that for a guy albeit a superstar who appears to have his best years behind him and could hit the wall at any time. thats a move you make when youre one piece away and that piece is NOT your qb

    third rounder tops, fourth rounder preferred. otherwise, forget it, take a rb in the middle rounds of this rb-rich draft and focus on the oline
    One set of rules for all in the beloved community

  7. Post thanked by:

    YardRat (03-01-2015)

  8. #7
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Location
    Sparing my telomeres
    Posts
    33,105
    Thanks
    15,700
    Thanked 13,409 Times in 9,123 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by Jaybird View Post
    I know he's 29, but AP is not your average back. I think he's got at least 3 good child beatings left in him.

  9. #8
    Insufferable prick and perpetual crybaby Meathead's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2002
    Location
    Outer space
    Posts
    21,349
    Thanks
    3,655
    Thanked 3,785 Times in 2,047 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    78

    Re: Trade for AP

    you know fwiw i dont think its at all fair what we did to adrian peterson. its almost as bad as what we did to that dumb old **** sterling and whatever that fat white *****es name was. but in this case it wasnt good old fashioned racism we were screwing up, in this case it was related to that back asswards race issue ******ation ive been beating up the dingleberries in prs for the last ten plus years over

    our still heavily white represented society takes a total hands off approach to standards within our blackness, to the point that they again have totally different rules regarding what was acceptable in child rearing

    we all knew that blackness still whooped dey kids. we make freakin jokes about it all the time, its in our movies, in our comedy shows, in our cartoons for crying out loud, its everywhere - subtle references to how independant and different and badass (relative to how we portray the rest of us especially whiteness) our blackness is, including whooping our kids

    nobody blinks an eye. in fact we laugh and then say well thats black ppl, as if the different rules are nothing and off limits. weve been doing that for decades, with multiple issues, certainly including the widely known fact that blacks still use corporal punishment on their kids

    and yet when peterson makes a mistake with a switch that leaves small superficial wounds (admittedly on the balls, a highly emotional disadvantage for a.p.), we cant wait to throw the freakin book at him as if hes some kind of monster. he gets slapped with an indefinite suspension, cant do his mega high paying job, offered no legitimate due process, and has to fight to get his right to work back. we woulda been happy if he had just disappeared, never to be heard from again, as if we did something good there to make him disappear like that

    iow, we created the inappropriate double standard in the first place. we actively ENABLED that behavior bc we didnt have the balls err guts to broach this subject years ago. and then we happily give him the death penalty by sitting back all full of ourselves and not even questioning the commishes decision when normally we criticize him for hugging too enthusiastically

    and of course bc we are mired deep in our gross dysfunction of special rules, we can only see what happened as wrong once it breaks the emotional barrier of injured man meat, or in this case boy berries

    what could possibly go wrong?

    same basic thing for ray rice too, btw. but thats too advanced to even bring up, especially in this forum, you ppl will flip the **** out. not that thats stopped me before but lets leave that for maybe after you digest this for five years

  10. #9
    Registered User jamze132's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2003
    Location
    Virginia
    Posts
    29,076
    Thanks
    7,750
    Thanked 5,853 Times in 3,502 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    104

    Re: Trade for AP

    There's no way the Vikings would even accept anything less than a 1st for him and there's no way the Bills will trade for a 29yr old RB with a rather large contract.

  11. #10
    Men Have Superbowl Gold, Legends Have Platinum Hearts!!! Luisito23's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2003
    Posts
    7,433
    Thanks
    658
    Thanked 1,702 Times in 969 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    46

    Re: Trade for AP

    I want him too, but the salary and the price it would take to get him would be too much...Let the Cowgirls deal with all that mess.
    "Expect rejection, but expect more to overcome it."
    ***Marv Levy.***


    "Coach Levy is one of the most inspirational people that I have ever known."
    ***Thurman Thomas.***


    "You're not going to find a more classier, down-to-Earth person away from the field than Marv Levy. He's a guy who's pretty much made me what I am today as far as a professional player and a person."
    ***Jim Kelly***


    Marv Levy's Website


  12. #11
    Registered User The Jokeman's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2003
    Location
    Buffalo, NY
    Posts
    9,995
    Thanks
    138
    Thanked 2,055 Times in 1,428 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    44

    Re: Trade for AP

    AP is this era's Barry Sanders. A great runner but even with Sanders a great runner alone can't get you to or win you playoff games. I say pass and use his $16M cap figure to re-sign Hughes add a starting TE (see Charles Clay) and draft a RB like Jay Ayjayi in the draft.

  13. #12
    Registered User Shady25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Ralph Wilson Stadium
    Posts
    177
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 47 Times in 36 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: Trade for AP

    Kiko would be proud to have Peterson on the same team.

    give them a 3rd next year that can turn into a 2nd if he plays 12 games. Buffalo has the advantage here, he is coveted, but nobody is going to overpay. Minnesota knows they have to get something for Adrian, he will not be playing for them again. Finding someone to take that contract is doing them a favor.
    WILL NOT REMOVE THIS UNTIL SHADY IS SUPERBOWL MVP!!!
    ROCHESTER KNIGHTHAWKS '12 '13 '14 CHAMPIONS

  14. Post thanked by:

    X-Era (03-01-2015)

  15. #13
    Registered User IlluminatusUIUC's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2012
    Location
    Chicago, Killinois
    Posts
    8,966
    Thanks
    3,129
    Thanked 6,165 Times in 3,360 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    31

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by jamze132 View Post
    There's no way the Vikings would even accept anything less than a 1st for him and there's no way the Bills will trade for a 29yr old RB with a rather large contract.
    The Vikings don't really have much choice in the matter. If the report about the combine was true, those bridges are a-burnin'


    Billszone 2013 Prediction Contest winner!

  16. #14
    Registered User Shady25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Ralph Wilson Stadium
    Posts
    177
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 47 Times in 36 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    The Vikings don't really have much choice in the matter. If the report about the combine was true, those bridges are a-burnin'
    Exactly.. give them a 3rd this year if it gets it done. a conditional next year if they want to take the chance at a better pick, or a 2nd round selection depending on Peterson playing said amount of games.

  17. #15
    What this generation tolerates, the next generation will embrace X-Era's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2005
    Location
    Corning, New York, United States
    Posts
    27,670
    Thanks
    1,006
    Thanked 2,040 Times in 1,212 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    83

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by Kiko View Post
    Exactly.. give them a 3rd this year if it gets it done. a conditional next year if they want to take the chance at a better pick, or a 2nd round selection depending on Peterson playing said amount of games.
    I really think one of our first two picks this year will be a running back. I'd much rather have Peterson.

  18. #16
    Registered User Shady25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Ralph Wilson Stadium
    Posts
    177
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 47 Times in 36 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I really think one of our first two picks this year will be a running back. I'd much rather have Peterson.
    Kiko agrees with this. Kiko thinks if we get 3-4 years out of AP we win the deal.

  19. #17
    Legendary Zoner coastal's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2005
    Posts
    15,507
    Thanks
    17,203
    Thanked 8,915 Times in 5,307 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    55

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    you know fwiw i dont think its at all fair what we did to adrian peterson. its almost as bad as what we did to that dumb old **** sterling and whatever that fat white *****es name was. but in this case it wasnt good old fashioned racism we were screwing up, in this case it was related to that back asswards race issue ******ation ive been beating up the dingleberries in prs for the last ten plus years over

    our still heavily white represented society takes a total hands off approach to standards within our blackness, to the point that they again have totally different rules regarding what was acceptable in child rearing

    we all knew that blackness still whooped dey kids. we make freakin jokes about it all the time, its in our movies, in our comedy shows, in our cartoons for crying out loud, its everywhere - subtle references to how independant and different and badass (relative to how we portray the rest of us especially whiteness) our blackness is, including whooping our kids

    nobody blinks an eye. in fact we laugh and then say well thats black ppl, as if the different rules are nothing and off limits. weve been doing that for decades, with multiple issues, certainly including the widely known fact that blacks still use corporal punishment on their kids

    and yet when peterson makes a mistake with a switch that leaves small superficial wounds (admittedly on the balls, a highly emotional disadvantage for a.p.), we cant wait to throw the freakin book at him as if hes some kind of monster. he gets slapped with an indefinite suspension, cant do his mega high paying job, offered no legitimate due process, and has to fight to get his right to work back. we woulda been happy if he had just disappeared, never to be heard from again, as if we did something good there to make him disappear like that

    iow, we created the inappropriate double standard in the first place. we actively ENABLED that behavior bc we didnt have the balls err guts to broach this subject years ago. and then we happily give him the death penalty by sitting back all full of ourselves and not even questioning the commishes decision when normally we criticize him for hugging too enthusiastically

    and of course bc we are mired deep in our gross dysfunction of special rules, we can only see what happened as wrong once it breaks the emotional barrier of injured man meat, or in this case boy berries

    what could possibly go wrong?

    same basic thing for ray rice too, btw. but thats too advanced to even bring up, especially in this forum, you ppl will flip the **** out. not that thats stopped me before but lets leave that for maybe after you digest this for five years
    dude.

    seriously.

    U r nuts.

  20. #18
    Peterman Sucks! Mr. Pink's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2006
    Location
    the fifth ring of hell
    Posts
    35,303
    Thanks
    2,755
    Thanked 10,254 Times in 6,469 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    97

    Re: Trade for AP

    I want no part of a running back who costs 15m+ a season in today's NFL.

    You've now hamstrung your organization to a ground and pound play style for a number of seasons that doesn't win in this league.

    You want real fools gold? Pay a RB that kind of stupid money.

  21. #19
    Registered User
    Join Date
    Apr 2013
    Posts
    2,802
    Thanks
    1,988
    Thanked 1,889 Times in 1,080 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    17

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by X-Era View Post
    I can't see a 1st for him. Maybe a 2nd.
    Well, your not the GM for the Viking now are you? He's probably the best RB in the NFL. Controversy or not, they're not going to give him away.

  22. #20
    Registered User Shady25's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    Ralph Wilson Stadium
    Posts
    177
    Thanks
    8
    Thanked 47 Times in 36 Posts
    Power to Give Rep
    0

    Re: Trade for AP

    Quote Originally Posted by sudzy View Post
    Well, your not the GM for the Viking now are you? He's probably the best RB in the NFL. Controversy or not, they're not going to give him away.
    well what kind of return are you expecting?

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •