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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by don137 View Post
    He had over 300 carries. He went from 5.1 YPC in 2013 to 4.2YPC last year. That is a big drop.
    Look how many times he touched the ball fewer than 20 times per game tho.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/McCoLe01.htm

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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by DraftBoy View Post
    The more time that goes by (as in minutes) the more I like the deal for the Bills perspective. Kiko is an animal but too many people let his big plays cover for his flaws (over pursuit, swallowed at POA).

    You trade a potential great LB for a known great RB. The risk is how long with McCoy be a great RB for? He's 2nd only to Murray for the most carries in the NFL over the last two years. Showed some signs of wearing down at 26.
    Kiko reminds me of Shane Conlin. All heart and effort but with a body that can't take the pounding of an NFL LB.

    My memory isn't that bad. He was all world the 1st half of 2013, then tailed off considerably the 2nd half of the season from the pounding he took. Then a major off-season injury and rehab in 2014. Meanwhile, Bills run D drastically improves without him last year.

    I wish the guy all the best but this is a trade I make 10 out of 10 times. With questions at QB, you get a chance to aquire the stud RB to ground and pound and improve the OL in FA and with a draft showing very good quality all across the OL.

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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by BleedinGreenNC View Post
    I wouldnt be surprised if the Bills send a pick along with Kiko.
    Already been reported there are no draft picks involved. This is a straight up one for one swap.
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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    mingia... pleasing Bills fans is impossible.. Kiko firmly believes that if we would have went out and signed Demarco Murray, people would complain about the cost, as well as him being injury prone. Buffalo took a top 3 RB for a top 3 ILB prospect. Kiko understands the salary implications, but thats what you do when you have a good to elite player.. you pay him.

    Shady is one of 3 elite talents on the Bills.. Dareus, Watkins, and McCoy. He immediately became our most reliable and go to player on offense.

    Kiko approves.
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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    The one sided response here (negative) reminds me of the bandwagon response when Orton was named starting QB last year. Most posts were saying he was a huge upgrade and there was talk of gaudy won-liost records and playoffs.

    I was one of the very few (if only) that said he sucked and would never deliver in any of the over the top predictions we saw on this site. I was vilified and insulted.....until my prediction came painfully true for everyone to see. Orton sucked.

    I see the same thing going on here McCoy has been one of the best running backs in the league. I can't believe that anyone would look at this blockbuster trade negatively. You're crazy if you are.

    Our running games sucked. I love Freddy's, but, he's done as an every down runner. Spiller has been a joke since he was wrongfully drafted.

    This is the best trade the Bills have done for years and I never expected anything so smart from such a historically bad front office.

    This has got Rex Ryan's fingerprints all over it.

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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Downinfloflo View Post
    Look how many times he touched the ball fewer than 20 times per game tho.

    http://www.pro-football-reference.co...M/McCoLe01.htm
    He had 20 or more touches in 10 games in 2014 versus 20 or more touches in 11 games in 2013; in the aggregate he had 2 few carries in 2014 versus 2013.

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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by BidsJr View Post
    Only way I make this trade is if I already have something in place to get a QB that is ready to compete for a championship this year.

    And there you have it.
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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by BidsJr View Post
    And there you have it.
    So you would not have made the McCoy trade?

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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by EDS View Post
    So you would not have made the McCoy trade?
    Cassel=Orton>Dilfer.

    IF the Bills had McCoy's production last year they are in the playoffs.

    I think this is a playoff team with Cassel and McCoy.

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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by BidsJr View Post
    Cassel=Orton>Dilfer.

    IF the Bills had McCoy's production last year they are in the playoffs.

    I think this is a playoff team with Cassel and McCoy.
    Assuming our defense is in the top 10 I think that's fair but I'd also want to improve our TE situation. As to me Cassel=Orton, McCoy > Jackson/Spiller Incognito>Richardson/Urbik now we just need a pass rusher that can produce 6-9 sacks which is no easy task so maybe we draft someone in Round 2 and bring in a veteran like Jabaal Sheard or Lamar Woodley and a S = Searcy and could see LaRon Landry being a cheap alternative. Yet with us not having Hughes (as don't think we can afford him with McCoy's salary in place) that's still a question mark.

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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    Assuming our defense is in the top 10 I think that's fair but I'd also want to improve our TE situation. As to me Cassel=Orton, McCoy > Jackson/Spiller Incognito>Richardson/Urbik now we just need a pass rusher that can produce 6-9 sacks which is no easy task so maybe we draft someone in Round 2 and bring in a veteran like Jabaal Sheard or Lamar Woodley and a S = Searcy and could see LaRon Landry being a cheap alternative. Yet with us not having Hughes (as don't think we can afford him with McCoy's salary in place) that's still a question mark.
    Top 10?

    Rex has said the Bills Defense will be the #1 Defense in the NFL. That is just the way it is.

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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by better days View Post
    Top 10?

    Rex has said the Bills Defense will be the #1 Defense in the NFL. That is just the way it is.
    If we go to a 34 base front I could see us struggling at times as don't see having the D-line to run it and/or don't have faith we'll keep Hughes and/or find a suitable replacement so we might take a step down this year.
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    Re: Kiko traded!

    Quote Originally Posted by The Jokeman View Post
    If we go to a 34 base front I could see us struggling at times as don't see having the D-line to run it and/or don't have faith we'll keep Hughes and/or find a suitable replacement so we might take a step down this year.
    Rex said " #1 Defense, that is just the way it is." at his first PC as Bills HC.



    We will see.

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    Re: Lesean McCoy to be a Bill

    ive been away for a coupole weeks and wow good for the bills this is one of the best RBs in football

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