I can't believe the stupidity of Bills fans

[DesertFox24]

I was a little upset until I really looked into it. Fact defense and run defense was better last year and he did not play a down, fact Bradham and Brown are 3 down LB, and you do not have 3 three down LBs on the roster anymore since most teams go with 3 or 4 wr sets most of the time. Fact even if Kiko was our best LB the drop from him to Brown and Bradham is not that large, and it is even disputable that he is the best. Fact the talent drop from McCoy to Jackson/Brown/Dixon is huge, fact we are going to be a run orientated team since we don to have a QB. When looking at it like this the only bad part is the cap hit and there are many ways to manage that number.

[Historian]

I support every one of these moves so far.

I think the Bills are doing the best they can, to play the cards they have been dealt, and fill the open holes.

And they're probably not done yet.

I'm really looking forward to next fall.

[OpIv37]

I support every one of these moves so far.

I think the Bills are doing the best they can, to play the cards they have been dealt, and fill the open holes.

And they're probably not done yet.

I'm really looking forward to next fall.

They are very limited in what they can still do because of the moves they've already made. And the moves they've already made aren't good enough to create a winner on their own.

[YardRat]

They are very limited in what they can still do because of the moves they've already made. And the moves they've already made aren't good enough to create a winner on their own.

Maybe that's why there will be more.

You might as well accept that Shady's deal is going to get re-done, and there will be some cap cuts.

[OpIv37]

Maybe that's why there will be more.

You might as well accept that Shady's deal is going to get re-done, and there will be some cap cuts.

he's not going to accept less money. The only way to re-do his deal is to amortize some of his salary so it counts in future years. And he's 27- we know how RB's drop off around 30, so I really don't think it's wise to promise future cap to an aging running back. It's very Redskin-esque.

[YardRat]

Of course he isn't going to accept less, but he'll certainly take more up front as a guaranteed signing bonus over the remaining years of unguaranteed salary. His cap hit will be cut in half in pretty short order, IMO.

[Goobylal]

he's not going to accept less money. The only way to re-do his deal is to amortize some of his salary so it counts in future years. And he's 27- we know how RB's drop off around 30, so I really don't think it's wise to promise future cap to an aging running back. It's very Redskin-esque.

He's got 3 years remaining which will take him to 30. You convert some of his salary into signing bonus and save several million in cap space. Then make some cuts and restructure some others and voila!

[IlluminatusUIUC]

Of course he isn't going to accept less, but he'll certainly take more up front as a guaranteed signing bonus over the remaining years of unguaranteed salary. His cap hit will be cut in half in pretty short order, IMO.

He's got 3 years remaining which will take him to 30. You convert some of his salary into signing bonus and save several million in cap space. Then make some cuts and restructure some others and voila!

Unless he's willing to take a pay cut, restructuring doesn't make that money go away - it just pushes the cap hit from this year into subsequent years. That is the worst possible move, because the next two offseasons are critical for signing our own guys.
2016 1st tier UFA: Dareus, Glenn, Gilmore 2nd tier: Chandler, Bradham
2017 1st tier UFA: McKelvin, Woods, Kyle Williams 2nd tier: Possibly Manuel

If anything, I would frontload McCoy's deal to swallow more of his cap hit this year and have his contract # drop in the future.

[OpIv37]

Also, If restructuring is so easy, I'm still waiting to hear why Philly didn't just restructure him. He wanted to be there, the fans love him and he was still playing well.

[feldspar]

And he's 27

No he isn't.

Also, If restructuring is so easy, I'm still waiting to hear why Philly didn't just restructure him. He wanted to be there, the fans love him and he was still playing well.

So Philly didn't restructure him...what's that supposed to prove? They traded him instead.

You don't have to rob some other team blind for a trade to be worthwhile, either.

[IlluminatusUIUC]

No he isn't.

Would it make you more comfortable if we said he was 26.75 years old?

[OpIv37]

No he isn't.



So Philly didn't restructure him...what's that supposed to prove? They traded him instead.

You don't have to rob some other team blind for a trade to be worthwhile, either.

Clearly freeing up cap was one of Philly's motivations for the trade. If they could have freed up cap space with a simple restructure, then they could have their cap and still have McCoy.

If a restructure were all that easy, I'm not so sure this trade even happens.

[feldspar]

Clearly freeing up cap was one of Philly's motivations for the trade. If they could have freed up cap space with a simple restructure, then they could have their cap and still have McCoy.

If a restructure were all that easy, I'm not so sure this trade even happens.

Could it be that they wanted Alonso?

That doesn't play in?

He was my favorite player from the day we drafted him, but I can definitely see why the Bills made this move. You can't?

[feldspar]

Would it make you more comfortable if we said he was 26.75 years old?

Saying that he's 27 just isn't true. 26.75 years old isn't true either...also too high.

What do you say when someone asked how old you are? Do you round off more than 4 months? I doubt it. Dunno. Your age is your age and that's non-negotiable.

[OpIv37]

Could it be that they wanted Alonso?

That doesn't play in?

He was my favorite player from the day we drafted him, but I can definitely see why the Bills made this move. You can't?

I can't see devoting so much cap space to the easiest position on the field to fill. I can't see spending so much on an RB without first fixing the OL. I can't see trading a guy who is only going to get better for a guy who has maybe 3 good years left.

Yes RB was a need and yes we filled it, but everything comes at a price and the price was too high on this one.

[feldspar]

I can't see devoting so much cap space to the easiest position on the field to fill. I can't see spending so much on an RB without first fixing the OL. I can't see trading a guy who is only going to get better for a guy who has maybe 3 good years left.

Yes RB was a need and yes we filled it, but everything comes at a price and the price was too high on this one.

Whatever.

I'm not even going to argue with you.

Live in your quagmire...

[BertSquirtgum]

Saying that he's 27 just isn't true. 26.75 years old isn't true either...also too high.

What do you say when someone asked how old you are? Do you round off more than 4 months? I doubt it. Dunno. Your age is your age and that's non-negotiable.

My god. Some of these guys on here are such idiot children.

[OpIv37]

Whatever.

I'm not even going to argue with you.

Live in your quagmire...

It's not my quagmire. It's the quagmire this team creates for itself in this perpetual state of losing. I just comment on it.

[feldspar]

It's not my quagmire.

Sure is.

Especially when you want to adamantly take a negative slant on things that remain to be seen.

consummate *****, whiner, complainer...you name it. Talk about reality...this is it.

[BillsImpossible]

Also, If restructuring is so easy, I'm still waiting to hear why Philly didn't just restructure him. He wanted to be there, the fans love him and he was still playing well.

Because Chip Kelly has a boner for Ducks.