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    A Ryan slam article...

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-from-mistakes

    So far this offseason, Ryan seems hellbent on rebuilding the Bills in the image of his former Jets teams, and while those teams had some success over the half-decade he was there, he left a trash heap of mediocrity at the Meadowlands when he departed.
    Hugely wordy and in depth. I really like Ryan for being Rexfest, and really want this to work, but this is about as close to my pessimism as it comes.
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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Garbage article from a garbage website.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Idzik is to blame for most of the talent issues. Ryan did a fantastic job with the crap hand he was dealt.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Dunno folks, he's working real hard to make his Jets again. Says he learned a lot, so why remake the Jets >

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    People completely flipped their opinions on Ryan once he donned blue. Look back at some of the Jets threads from last year.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    Dunno folks, he's working real hard to make his Jets again. Says he learned a lot, so why remake the Jets >
    Happenstance. The Bills already had a good defense and ST's when he took over. And in the absence of a franchise QB, the smartest thing to do is build up the running game.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Jets fans were sad to see him go....enough said.

    I was at a restaurant tonight in ATL and one of my friends said great pick up on ur new running back!

    He's a Jets fan so I'd say he's biased.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Yeah because the Bills are the pinnacle of the NFL.

    There is nothing Rex Ryan can do to this franchise to RUIN it, Nothing!!

    When you can't even sniff the post season for 15 years strait in a league that see's almost half it's teams make it.

    You suck, And you're really good at sucking..

    Rex would have to try really, really, Hard to ruin things..

    We are a trash heap!! And we have been for a very long time!!
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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by bdutton View Post
    Idzik is to blame for most of the talent issues. Ryan did a fantastic job with the crap hand he was dealt.
    No. Idzik was only there for two years. Ryan's teams were bad before that.


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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Mace View Post
    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...-from-mistakes



    Hugely wordy and in depth. I really like Ryan for being Rexfest, and really want this to work, but this is about as close to my pessimism as it comes.
    I don't think the writer of this article knows what he is talking about.

    This writer said: "Cassel wasn't exactly a very willing mentor to Teddy Bridgewater in Minnesota last year"

    Well, I read just the opposite of that somewhere else.

    I read that despite being injured, Cassel mentored & worked with Bridgewater all season which he didn't have to do.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Swiper View Post
    No. Idzik was only there for two years. Ryan's teams were bad before that.


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    The Jets signed a number of FA's to high priced short term contracts the first two years Rex was the Jets HC.

    Then they did not replace those players like Revis with other GOOD players after they left.

    That is the reason the Jets fell apart.

    I read on a Jets board that Rex had a hand in drafting Richardson but that Idzik was responsible for the rest of that draft which was a terrible draft for the Jets.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Why do people assume Rex has final player/personnel say? I'm sure Whaley consults with Rex, but I doubt Rex has the power to veto anything Doug wants to do. The same in NY. I don't think Rex was the one refusing to provide any talent to the roster in his final few seasons there.

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    Ideally Whaley and Ryan will be on the same page re:player acquisitions. The last thing we need is another Mike Williams pissing match between the GM and HC.
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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Rex really likes Sammy, so it's not like the old days when Saban outfitted all of the receivers with bigger facemasks so they could block for OJ.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobylal View Post
    Happenstance. The Bills already had a good defense and ST's when he took over. And in the absence of a franchise QB, the smartest thing to do is build up the running game.
    But building up the running game means building up the OL, not going after flashy new toys. Over the past decade and a half, the Bills have had a lot of above average skill players at the WR and RB positions. It hasn't worked because we've never been able to keep a decent OL together.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by Forward_Lateral View Post
    Why do people assume Rex has final player/personnel say? I'm sure Whaley consults with Rex, but I doubt Rex has the power to veto anything Doug wants to do. The same in NY. I don't think Rex was the one refusing to provide any talent to the roster in his final few seasons there.
    Do you really think Whaley would take on a $9 million cap hit for an RB and give up a player like Kiko if the coach wasn't on board? Do you really think this trade happens if Marrone had stayed?

    I agree that Whaley should- and probably does- have final say over personnel, but Rex is driving this whole thing. And that's the way it should be: The coach and GM largely agree on what the team needs, so the coach asks for something and the GM does his best to get it. I've already made my opinion about these moves known, but I think Rex is behind them and, while I question the decisions so far, the GM should be getting him the guys he wants so he can sink or swim on his own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHURRICANE View Post
    Jets fans were sad to see him go....enough said.

    I was at a restaurant tonight in ATL and one of my friends said great pick up on ur new running back!

    He's a Jets fan so I'd say he's biased.
    Sad to see him go? Hehe, yeah.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    well he has way better talent than he had and a better owner and GM so it could be better this time around..still need the QB dammitt!!

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    This team so far DOES look like the jets because Rex is depending on the running game , his defense and an average QB (Cassel)to carry the team) What people who are writing these articles are there aren't a lot of above average qb's in the market to bring in. Hell if Sanchez is the best out there and we brought him in , he's still average. If the bills don't look to improve the team when a better option than Cassel is out, there ,only then will I worry.

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    Re: A Ryan slam article...

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    But building up the running game means building up the OL, not going after flashy new toys. Over the past decade and a half, the Bills have had a lot of above average skill players at the WR and RB positions. It hasn't worked because we've never been able to keep a decent OL together.
    They're trying to build up the OL. They have good pieces in Glenn, Wood, and Henderson, added Incognito, and are rumored to be going after Iupati.

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