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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

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    they didn't win. Who cares?
    I tell you what, It sure as hell is a lot more fun watching your team play for the cup (Not that you would know, But try to imagine it) win or loose than it is watching them play for a lotto pick.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    How would I not know? I saw our last finals. The put of more of a fight than the Rangers did last year. You're telling me you enjoyed that slaughtering?
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    I'm just letting you know that you have been given 2 points for telling Wys AKA Mark to kill himself.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    yeah, we know nothing of having a good season

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    OK, there are a couple of things that are wrong here from different people


    1. The core of Pominville, Vanek, Stafford, Miller, etc. did more than just 2 8 seeds. They won the Northeast too. Still lost in round 1, but just for accuracy’s sake they did more than just squeak in
    2. Now for FloFlo
      1. Yes – the Sabres talked to Miller and he wasn’t interested in a rebuild
      2. They got more than garbage players for Pominville. Larsson will very possibly be a solid 3rd line guy or 4th line player who can move up when there is injury. They also got the pick who turned in Zadarov. In the Vanek deal, which was very good for Buffalo, the Sabres got Moulson who was moved last year and also got the Islanders 1st round pick this year. Come on man – if you’re going to knock them at least try to be a little accurate. Don’t be obtuse.
      3. Myers ELC was up and they needed to sign him to a deal. Maybe the deal they signed was too much, but his ELC was not fine because it expired.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    What's the fascination with bashing the worst team last year and this year ?? Reality of the matter is the bad teams get good picks and we're bad, so what's the problem ?? Someone has to make the first few picks, might as well be Buffalo.

    The Sabres haven't focused on getting good this year and have a very young team, they'll get better and add talent (some generational). Then you can come back for your return abuse, which we will be glad to provide. Until then, GO F-Yourself.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    The Sabres used the last two seasons to dump garbage players (and their contracts), stockpile draft picks and let young guys get experience. They aren't the first team to do it and they won't be the last.

    The only difference is that this year, there are two top prospects at the head of the draft, and the lottery system guarantees one of them to the team that finishes 30th. So, tanking this year is a better bet than tanking in most seasons.

    That's it.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Not all of the players they dumped were garbage - many were good players who had expiring deals. (For the life of me,the Pominvill hate is amongst the dumbest thing in this forum. He wasn't a physical player, so Buffalo fans go nuts and act like he wasn't a hard worker and the same stupid blue collar bull **** that runs through this city, but I digress).

    Regardless, the idea of dumping pending FA's is common It's what teams do.

    Did the Sabres fall farther down than many teams? For sure. But the concept is the same, not how much people want to spin it
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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    What I don't get is the bashing of buffalo, saying no one wants to play here, then turning around and slamming the Sabres for not attracting free agents.

    Simply saying "I'd sign free agents" isn't the way it goes.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
    yeah, we know nothing of having a good season
    You tell them.

    Two losses in the Stanley Cup Finals in 45 years is not nothing.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by MitchMurrayDowntown View Post
    What's the fascination with bashing the worst team last year and this year ??
    Because it was intentionally planned.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Not all of the players they dumped were garbage - many were good players who had expiring deals. (For the life of me,the Pominvill hate is amongst the dumbest thing in this forum. He wasn't a physical player, so Buffalo fans go nuts and act like he wasn't a hard worker and the same stupid blue collar bull **** that runs through this city, but I digress).

    Regardless, the idea of dumping pending FA's is common It's what teams do.

    Did the Sabres fall farther down than many teams? For sure. But the concept is the same, not how much people want to spin it
    maybe "garbage" is a bit harsh but Poms was supposed to be a leader here. A first liner who performed consistently. He wasn't even close to being up for the task.

    You could argue that it's on management to recognize that and put him in a more suitable role, but they didn't. So, he either had to live up to the expectation or the team would lose. We know how that turned out....

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    Because it was intentionally planned.
    Yes. It's called rebuilding.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Pominville is a second line winger who was paid and was played like a first liner. It's that failure to recognize those distinctions that made the complete tear down necessary.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by OpIv37 View Post
    maybe "garbage" is a bit harsh but Poms was supposed to be a leader here. A first liner who performed consistently. He wasn't even close to being up for the task.

    You could argue that it's on management to recognize that and put him in a more suitable role, but they didn't. So, he either had to live up to the expectation or the team would lose. We know how that turned out....

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    So if you were put in the Octagon against GSP and lose, because UFC built you up as a viable contendor, it would be your fault?
    No, but the fans who were rooting for me would be disappointed, and possibly pissed off depending on how much they actually cared about me (or if they had money on the fight).

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    You tell them.

    Two losses in the Stanley Cup Finals in 45 years is not nothing.
    So, being in the Finals is the only prerequisite for "having a good season"? I didn't realize how many teams havn't had a good season in years, or ever.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Lecter View Post
    Not all of the players they dumped were garbage - many were good players who had expiring deals. (For the life of me,the Pominvill hate is amongst the dumbest thing in this forum. He wasn't a physical player, so Buffalo fans go nuts and act like he wasn't a hard worker and the same stupid blue collar bull **** that runs through this city, but I digress).

    Regardless, the idea of dumping pending FA's is common It's what teams do.

    Did the Sabres fall farther down than many teams? For sure. But the concept is the same, not how much people want to spin it
    Hmm, I wonder who that Pomminville rant was directed at?

    and just to be clear, sure I didn't like that he wasn't physical, but I was more upset with something that really had nothing to do with him. He was paid a very nice salary for a second line player. He is a good to very good player, but he would never be much more than a complimentary player and a very good penalty killer.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

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    How would I not know? I saw our last finals. The put of more of a fight than the Rangers did last year. You're telling me you enjoyed that slaughtering?
    They lost 4 games, 3 of the 4 went into overtime, 2 of the overtime games went into double overtime.

    It was great, Do they have overtime for the lotto?

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    No, but I'm sure we'll be disappointed at the end, too.

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    Re: Honest question for Spiked and Downinfloflo

    Quote Originally Posted by chernobylwraiths View Post
    Hmm, I wonder who that Pomminville rant was directed at?

    and just to be clear, sure I didn't like that he wasn't physical, but I was more upset with something that really had nothing to do with him. He was paid a very nice salary for a second line player. He is a good to very good player, but he would never be much more than a complimentary player and a very good penalty killer.
    It wasn't just you -it was in general

    And yes he was overpaid. He's a damn solid player, very good at the PK and would be great on a second line, chipping in 25 goals and 35-40 assists.

    But people act like he has the skills of Cody McCormick or Zac Dalpe sometimes and that's silly

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