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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    keep digging for useless articles Spiked
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    Not an article. A weekly sports show on TSN.

    But I should not argue with an expert on uselessness -- a Sabres fan.
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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    I think using the lottery to pick the top 3 teams would go a long way.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    If you want to prevent this, have the teams be able to lose more than one spot.
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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    Quote Originally Posted by casdhf View Post
    If you want to prevent this, have the teams be able to lose more than one spot.
    That's what I'm saying. If you could go from 1st to 4th? That would inhibit some of it I think. Not all because some teams picking 4th is still better than picking 10th by trying.
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    2016 NHL Draft Lottery
    Beginning in 2016, the Draft Lottery will be utilized to assign the top three drafting slots in the NHL Draft, an expansion over previous years when the Draft Lottery was used to determine the winner of the first overall selection only.
    Three draws will be held: the 1st Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting first overall, the 2nd Lottery draw will determine the Club selecting second overall and the 3rd Lottery draw will determine the club selecting third overall.
    As a result of this change, the team earning the fewest points during the regular season will no longer be guaranteed, at worst, the second overall pick. That club could fall as low as fourth overall.
    The allocation of odds for the 1st Lottery draw will be the same as outlined above for the 2015 NHL Draft Lottery. The odds for the remaining teams will increase on a proportionate basis for the 2nd Lottery draw, based on which Club wins the 1st Lottery draw, and again for the 3rd Lottery draw, based on which Club wins the 2nd Lottery draw.
    The 11 Clubs not selected in the Draft Lottery will be assigned NHL Draft selections 4 through 14, in inverse order of regular-season points.
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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    There are a number of ways. You could lottery multiple picks like the NBA (though that's not foolproof as we see in Philadelphia), or you could delay the draft reward by a year or more. If you are bad in 2015, you get the first pick in 2017 for example.

    Or you could recognize that sports with small teams swing wildly on the presence of superstar players, and realize that some teams are naturally going to chase that advantage.


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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    Quote Originally Posted by IlluminatusUIUC View Post
    There are a number of ways. You could lottery multiple picks like the NBA (though that's not foolproof as we see in Philadelphia), or you could delay the draft reward by a year or more. If you are bad in 2015, you get the first pick in 2017 for example.

    Or you could recognize that sports with small teams swing wildly on the presence of superstar players, and realize that some teams are naturally going to chase that advantage.
    The Philly tank is just weird. There isn't a clear cut option at #1 that makes sense for them since both top NBA propsects (Jabari Parker and Karl Anthony-Towns) are center options and they have Nerlens Noel and Joel Embiid. Now unless Embiid's foot issue is much more severe than it was originally reported I'd expect Philly to trade the pick. It seems like Hinkie (76ers GM) knew his team was bad and just said F it and is going to get as much young talent as he can regardless of position. If the Lakers pick he got for trading Micheal Carter-Wiliams as the deadline works out the 76ers could have the #1 and #6 overall picks in the 1st round. Too bad the draft is just meh per NBA Draft people.
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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    rules are always going to be gamed, and regulations and new rules will come in to try to stop old behaviors. guess what happens then, the new rules will be gamed. it's almost impossible to remove this mentality.

    this is a unique year with 2 very good prospects. specifically in the NHL where so few are expected to make an impact immediately.

    i doubt any team does it next year. but when the next crop of can't miss propects shows it self, i'm sure some team or teams will figure a way to improve their odds at getting that player.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    is tanking any different than a team like the Patriots running some ****ed up formation in order to gain an edge?

    because as it stands... they are breaking no rules. none.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mightysimi View Post
    I think using the lottery to pick the top 3 teams would go a long way.
    Next year that's the plan.

    Murray's whining prevented it from happening this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coastal View Post
    is tanking any different than a team like the Patriots running some ****ed up formation in order to gain an edge?

    because as it stands... they are breaking no rules. none.

    Isn't it sad that there needs to be a rule that you must try to win a game?

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    Quote Originally Posted by SpikedLemonade View Post
    Isn't it sad that there needs to be a rule that you must try to win a game?
    They are trying to win... the Cup... in the future and think this is the best way to do that.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    Best comment I read from the HF Boards Sabre Section from a Sabre fan this morning....

    If we don't finish 30th it really is karma. Let's be honest we've been more open about finishing 30th then any team in a long long time.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    What Bruins message boards do you post on, Spiked?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    What Bruins message boards do you post on, Spiked?

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    So no fan sites then. You go out of your way to post on a Sabres fan site frequently, but can't be bothered to post on a fan site for your own team.

    That's messed up. I've never posted on a fan site for a team that I'm not even a fan of, especially not as much as you do here.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    So no fan sites then. You go out of your way to post on a Sabres fan site frequently, but can't be bothered to post on a fan site for your own team.

    That's messed up. I've never posted on a fan site for a team that I'm not even a fan of, especially not as much as you do here.
    No one in their right mind would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dude View Post
    So no fan sites then. You go out of your way to post on a Sabres fan site frequently, but can't be bothered to post on a fan site for your own team.

    That's messed up. I've never posted on a fan site for a team that I'm not even a fan of, especially not as much as you do here.
    I told you HF ==> http://hfboards.hockeysfuture.com/forumdisplay.php?f=15

    Clearly, you are a better fan and person than I am.

    Then again I have never rooted for my Bruins to lose a game.

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    Re: The Reporters: Can the NHL prevent teams from tanking?

    I've never rooted for the Sabres to lose, not sure where you're getting your information from. Management's decision on the direction of the team is what it is, and how I cheer, or how much I complain will do absolutely nothing to change that.

    I've also never posted on a fan site for a different team, especially not with the frequency that you do here. HF is not a fan site (i.e. specific to one team and/or run by fans) - it's a general site for all teams. This is a Buffalo site.

    I'm not saying I'm a better person or fan, but clearly you have issues as evidence by your obsession with a team for which you don't support.

    You continue to rail on the team and the fans as if a) we care, b) it makes a difference. If you dedicated to the Bruins a small fraction of the time and energy you commit to the Buffalo Sabres, you would be considered a superfan.

    I've asked you before and you don't seem to want to answer, but what exactly is it that you are trying to accomplish by spamming and trolling our site?

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